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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Those seas in particular? Because they are bounded by narrow straights.

A gulf has a more specific definition. A sea has a very broad one.

A gulf is mostly enveloped (engulfed) by land, but fairly open to its parent waters relative to its size on one side. Like a reverse peninsula.

A sea can be just about any large, salty, body of water that is between bits of land. They can have very finite bounds such as narrow straights and rivers mouths, more porous bounds like an archipelago, or broadly open to the ocean / other seas between islands or other land masses.

The question for me is “why is the Persian Gulf not a sea, but the Adriatic Sea is not a gulf?”

I guess part of it is that language changes over time, these things got named by different people over the millennia before they were well mapped. Some are translations from other languages, some are political decisions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Is Pluto a planet?" problem, I suppose. I doubt that there is a precise, strict definition, so those seas are called that because "it happened this way historically" and there is no real need to change that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen a diagrammatic chart showing the difference, but damned if I can find it on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think it’s like this:

Sea = Sea water surrounded by land

Gulf = water that goes into land

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is a gulf really all that different than a bay? Also I’m not seeing sea on here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I think there may be scale elements to these too. The chart I had included scale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I had the same thought with cape and peninsula

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It changes nothing that's why avoid anyone bring "about Pluto" discussions it's a waste of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It might be more difficult in the case of seas. There may be some international norms on where the borders should be. So sea vs. gulf might bring real problems with it. Nobody wants that (except for Putin-Trump crazies)

But I'm not a specialist. Maybe it won't change anything.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Probably at the time that the name was coined people thought that it’s a area rather than a gulf. Just like Milford Sound is technically a fjord and not a sound

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only when there's nobody around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That was profound.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

to me “sea” doesn’t mean anything except for “general water region, smaller than an ocean”. I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with considering those three to be “gulfs”, but I think that people don’t usually think of them that way because unless you study the geography carefully, you might not even notice that they actually are connected to the rest of the ocean.

by the way, fun fact: there is actually a sea that isn’t connected to the ocean and why we don’t call it a lake, I really don’t understand. but that’s the Caspian Sea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

According to its German Wikipedia article, the Caspian Sea is called sea and not lake only because of its size and salinity, not because it matches the relevant definitions of a sea.