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As someone forced to ride my bike right next to thundering trucks and cars on the roads every day, I can't begin to enumerate how many close calls I've had because there are no bike lanes here. (lemmy.world)
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Fuck your existing lanes and fuck your 1.5-tonne beasts. Make some space, it won't fucking kill you.

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[–] MystikIncarnate 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I drive, and I disagree with the quoted post about not removing driving lanes.

I live in a fairly rural area, we have no bike lanes, and everything is too far away for it to be practical to get there by any other method than to drive. Though, I used to live in a major metro, and I drove when I was there too, mainly out of convenience.

As someone who travels primarily by driving, I want to see more bike lanes. Not for my benefit or convenience, but for the safety of those that travel by bike. I've seen the close calls that some cyclists experience daily, and it's unacceptable. The current set of drivers includes a nontrivial number of folks who have no regard for cyclists and their safety. The courts have proven time, and time again that they will not uphold laws meant to protect cyclists. So the only path forward to preserve life and limb for those that use a bicycle to travel, is dedicated lanes.

Having bike lanes put in without affecting the number of driving lanes is ideal but when that is not an option, then reducing driving lanes to create bike lanes is necessary.

I'm fucking tired of all these fucks thinking that more lanes somehow makes traffic flow better. It really doesn't. It can help when people are turning or something, but so can dedicated turning lanes. At worst, you'll have to wait for someone to turn and though that's an inconvenience, it's hardly a problem. In any case, fuck these fucking fucks and their metal boxes burning prehistoric forests.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'm just scratching my head because all the roads in my rural town are one lane in each direction, with heavy industrial farming traffic. There's not even shoulders, its just the road, a ditch, and a field.

I'd take better public transit over bike lanes.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

They only way to remove conflict between bikes and cars, where the bike usually loses, is to remove cars or bikes. Giving the road to cars is tried and always runs into standstill traffic and stupendous infrastructure costs. Bike infrastructure turns out to scale more and is cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (14 children)

IIUC, in Ontario cyclists are legally allowed to take up a whole lane on most roads.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

In most coastal US cities, if bike-specific facilities are unavailable or blocked then it's legal to take a full motor lane. At your own peril of course, most drivers and many cops are indifferent to this information. Vehicular cycling is sadly not the answer to getting everyone out on a bike.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Organized protests should not be too difficult (probably ditto many unorganized ones. 😁🙂).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I kinda like it too. 😁

Thanks for posting it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you left out an "n't".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

corrected and thank you for the correction. 😁🙂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Let the motorists know your disapproval. There might be many ways to express such. 😁

[–] Rentlar 7 points 2 days ago

And these statistics (I would appreciate OOP's sources if they're available) would be good ammunition in the lawsuit filed against the Ontario government for their bill that is spuriously trying to remove bike lanes in Toronto.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In South Africa roads are not even designed with pedestrian walkways. I would hear all the time in the news about drunk drivers hitting a group of cyclists or pedestrians. Its genuinely unsafe to go anywhere without a car. I now live in the Netherlands and I only bought a car 3 years after I moved here, because there is actual working public transport and even the rural areas have bike lanes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why did you buy a car?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Basically for carrying goods, doing long drives, or comfort in bad weather. Public transport works well here but you can still end up having to do a lot of waiting and walking if you are doing a trip somewhere. Also the more connections a trip needs then the higher chance something can go wrong. For example, missing a train because the connection was late. There are car sharing services here too, and there is one of these cars right next to my house. I would rent that when I wanted to go to an appointment somewhere. But there were enough times that the service was unreliable or booked out when I needed a car urgently, that I got annoyed and decided to get my own car. I think a mix of cycling, public transport and having your own car is best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I am not that familiar with the public transport in the Netherlands. But I envy your bike paths. I do most of my daily stuff using my bicycle.

I wondered how our needs might differ, since I don't own a car in Germany. I guess you have more need for long distance travel than I do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Pretty handy to have a car. I have one too, for the first time in 10 years. But I don't use it to commute and I actively try to avoid using it.

But sometimes you need to take the wife and kids to visit some family out of town or go down to the local hardware store to pick to materials. There's a lot use usecases

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They feel entitled to other people's lives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean I'd love to believe this but there's no source

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Found one and updated it!

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