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Russia can attack Europe 2-4 years after war's end, faster with lifted sanctions, Ukrainian intel chief warns (kyivindependent.com)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

If the Bear turns back and takes his honey the Wolf will die from starvation.

I can't wait when China signs deal to abandon Russia and get Siberia in return after Russia collapse.

The Russia is so fragile right now, they will be out of foreign money reserves this year, they classified population data because there is no more new population and most of people are hired in war industry.

If war industry collapses because there is no war they will be all out of job so the only option not to starve would be to start revolution. Russia must continue war, this is only option they see, there is nothing going on with winning or with starting new conflicts.

They need 500 thousand soliders to maintain currently occupied territories.

It's such a big impas. Russia is basically dead. Best they can do is bomb civilians to say they're still fighting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Russia is the agressor but this doesn't seem realistic and contradict with media and people still saying russia isn't winning the conventional war

[+] [email protected] -12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They can of course try and attack nuclear nations and risk total annihilation. Even if everyone was going to say "no problem lets not use nukes" the european states would stand in moskow and storm the kreml eaily.

Its totally in line with the current warmongering of the german fascist government.

Take a second and think: would you go and die for a country? How can you ask of others if you dont?

Also, most importantly: a country that kidnapps its citizens to throw them into the warzone has no credibility in my book.

Russia is the aggressor, no problem. But the war in ukraine has been lost when they started putting men in jail for fleeing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

German fascist government? Does the word fascism mean anything anymore?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Have you ever heard of the overtone window? Germany is already breaking international law and planning on building the infamous "konzentrationslager" again.

You're not paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brother what? Konzentrationslager?
Yeah sure, Friedrich Merz is going to reactivate the KZs any minute now. And Bayer already ramped up the Zyklon B production. TF are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There you see the problem. Thats not how it happened last time and its not how it happens this time.

Here's an article about them. I suggest you read it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp

The concentration camps are not killing camps although a lot of people like to mix them up. They're just camps to bring "undesirables" to. The atrocities done to them werent by design at first.

So of course the illegal deportation camps are just that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

putting men in jail for fleeing.

This would be the case in almost every country.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And that makes it okay?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it does yes.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're morally corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why? You're a citizen so it's your duty to protect your country. If you don't want that, go to a country that wouldn't care.

People that take advantage of their country but not fight for it are the immoral ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I do not remember signing up for a meat fodder to protect oligarch's money lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is your opinion. I disagree. You are born into a country without being asked and would be forced to move your life to a country based on if they force you to die if they deem it necessary. That has nothing to do with democracy and freedom.

Apart from that, the UN agrees with me in human rights resolution 1995/83 "conscientious objection to military service". It is also a human right not to be sent to die against your will just to save a state. Because fighting in a war does not mean you save the people in said country. Think about it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still think it should be your duty. Otherwise you never were a real part of the country. I feel it mostly depends on the attackers and your chances of winning. If your friends and family have been part of the collective that has been protecting you your whole life, and those lives are in danger, it's extremely selfish to just sit back and hope for the best.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's of course your right to think and say that.

That said, protecting a country is not the same as your loved ones. You can do that with a gun sitting at your window. Also it strongly depends on why you are supposed to defend it.

Because honestly, protecting nazi germany was one's duty at the time. I would have shot myself before i'd have done that.

It is incredibly important to not pass rash judgement but think about the implications beforehand.

Also some food for thought: you see killing as a must for living in a country. Maybe ask yourself why you think that. What good does it do to kill other people? The vast majority of lost life in battles in the last 50 years wasnt in justified wars but to protect capital interests. Maybe lets not die for money?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also some food for thought: you see killing as a must for living in a country. Maybe ask yourself why you think that. What good does it do to kill other people? The vast majority of lost life in battles in the last 50 years wasnt in justified wars but to protect capital interests. Maybe lets not die for money?

I have asked myself this. Now you should ask yourself if you would wish to submit to Russian rule as a Ukrainian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Good. I also have. If you tell me your thoughts, i'll tell you mine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Conscription is immoral. If you sign up to fight for your country, and you run away, well that's a lot more morally ambiguous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It isn't. You're living in a country that has been protecting you your whole life. People often forget this. If you don't want to fight for the country you live in. Go someplace else. Otherwise you're just selfish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but this take feels like it comes from the mind of a thirteen year old with zero understanding of how the world works. There are far, far more ways to contribute back to a country than going to die for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

You're making this very personal so I'm just going to block you. You're clearly just a privileged person who should stop projecting.