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due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.


One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Comments for this post are disabled, as we don’t expect any constructive discourse here, and we don’t want to create another comment section for terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc. There are already plenty other posts where discussion can take place.

Not sure how to feel about this.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel badly about it. Zionists are fascists, and the Nakba is like the Holocaust. People should be able to say that. They should also be able to say Hamas is not conducting a genocide (because they don't have enough guns to do what they want). I don't support terrorism but I do think we should be conducting targeted strikes against IDF military assets without involving civilians, and I think the terrorism advocacy is mostly coming from Zionists.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

the Nakba is like the Holocaust

lol

by the way i think that's regarded as anti-semitic and holocaust denial, both of which is illegal in many countries

you can see why defederation is the least one should do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Semite means middle eastern person. You shouldn't deny the genocide being done against semites, it's antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

are you one of those sovereign citizens that has their own fantasy world full of their own definitions

that would explain your comedic genius

and your antisemitism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

Semitic people or Semites is a term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group[2][3][4][5] associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, and Phoenicians.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so not denying being antisemitic

good for you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you wouldn't think protesting against genocide is antisemitic, if you didn't think Judaism is a genocidal religion. You should try thinking of it that way and see what happens.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

comparing the holocaust to the naqba is antisemitic

other people say that because it radically minimizes and mischaracterizes the holocaust in doing so

got it now?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're both genocides. Denying that the nakba is a genocide is antisemitic. Calling it a genocide isn't.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

you're brave, you're openly doing it

good for you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

You’re the brave and openly zionist, how have you no shame? Go hang out with your other nazi buddies on kiwifarms instead of a leftist space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nuh-uh. I haven't compared the nakba to the holocaust, only you have. Comparing means finding the difference between two things. Like when I compare apples at the supermarket to see which is fresher. You've compared them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Zionists are fascists, and the Nakba is like the Holocaust. People should be able to say that

it's fine you don't have to pretend any more

what would you have done with them as them started migrating to palestine?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Given them citizenship and equal rights??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Why would the colonisers give rights to the people who they want to kill and steal their land?

You zionazis aren't good at reasoning are you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Palestine didn't have a centralised government yet, just a bunch of nomadic tribes. Citizenship as a concept didn't exist yet. It was actually the Jewish refugees moving into Palestine who invented the idea.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Every time I feel like feddit.org is going into the right direction, shit like this pops up. Marvellous.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

It's an unbelievably stupid decision imo. Talk about tone deaf.

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[–] theacharnian 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The way it's worded, it makes it sound that anyone opposed to their POV is one of "terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc." I'm hoping it's just unfortunate wording.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Authoritarians can't handle being called out, make it harder to be called out.

Genocide is perfectly rational and normal, calling it out is a bad idea. No tought crime allowed when the government is aiding the moral and just murders.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

German bootlicker siding with the genocide state because government said so and if they help israeli here, then Germans are clear for all the crimes they committed against gays, slavs and romanis etc 🤡 and jews, obviously the jews

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

So feddit.org is full of zionists, wanting to murder all living things in Gaza? Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (19 children)

feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists

one of quokk.au's admins called a feddit's admin "absolute trash human being" and "nazi cunt". That seems to be the reason.

Apparently they felt so upset for being banned from feddit that they defederated their instance (quokk.au) from feddit.org altogether. Now feddit.org defederated back.

Honestly that admin just seems insulting and toxic. I'm glad that kind of stuff has no place on my instance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Isn't that synonymous with "Zionist"?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Love me some fediverse drama. Calling mods nazis is some classic internet stuff. But I can’t say I know much about these instances.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

These reactions are very German of them... I am sure it all makes sense within German speaking community but from outside perspective these people are literally Nazi 2.0: the Israeli boogaloo

we gonna make it right with the jews by helping them do a shoah against people they dont see as humans. The law says we have to do it so it is right and proper

🤡

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

I think it's reasonable and should be considered the default approach to defederate instances that have defederated with you. I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting ~~allegedly~~ Zionist admins ~~(and I'm only saying allegedly because I haven't read the full context yet)~~. I would suggest changing the title to say that quokk.au defederated over the Zionism rather than feddit defederated over it if quokk.au was the first to defederate of the pair.

One sided federation causing strange issues that may be confusing to users.

Also fuck Zionists and Nazis in case this sounds too defensive.

Edit: while I understand feddit admins' position and not wanting to get into legal trouble, that doesn't magically absolve them of the term Zionist. I think it's fair to call it Zionism. The legal scenario they're concerned about, if it happened, would be Zionist.

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