*genocide-tested in Gaza
this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2025
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It is nice how the genocide stuff gets imported back home to surpress the local population after "testing" it on Palestinians.
Really makes you feel like those tax dollars/pounds spent on Israel meant something.
That is exactly how I felt when the MRAPs were handed out like candy to US police departments after generals in Iraq and Afghanistan had no further use for them.
This, in no way, looks like a vehicle that could offer anything but hindrance, difficulty, and cost to the job, being quite ineffective at most things required of it. It is designed with a purpose in mind and it wasn't the streets of London.
That may be true, but even worse, America shows: When you put war equipment on the streets, they'll use it to wage war. The tools may not be the root of the problem, but they will supercharge a dehumanizing "us versus them" mindset of police.
Well yeah but they fucked up the moment they gave every cop a gun. That’s not a factor with the situations these vehicles will be used for. American policing is not comparable.
People will refer to these as "tanks" especially when a weapon is mounted on them but they are not, they are correctly referred to as MRAPs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine-Resistant_Ambush_Protected_Vehicle
You are right, MRAPs are for counter insurgency conflicts and for the love of whatever god you do or don't worship please don't let police institutions anywhere near war, what you will get is a genocide disguised as a war (turns gaze straight at the IDF with a Gorgon Stare).
Good news though! A common complaint from warfighters is that MRAPs are inherently tall (to direct mine blasts away) and thus easily tipped over and they are heavy af and probably super annoying to pull back upright so take from that what you will UK citizens.
Ineffective? It’s there to block streets and deliver riot police to an area. Looks like it’ll tick both boxes.
Most things this vehicle has been designed for cannot be found in London and most challenges London has for vehicles cannot be overcome by such a design. They're incompatible; all the way down to visibility, agility of the chassis, vulnerability to liquid explosives on hard ground and panels, to even basics like the turning circle.
Is it great in softer, non-urban, open, and wider terrain? Yes. Is London any of these things? Definitely not.
There are vehicles for the job that would make the desired impact. This is definitely not one of them.
It's replacing these:
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Metropolitan Police Jankel Guardians engaged on an operation. These are utilised by public order and armed officers for high-profile operations and airport patrols.
A new way to fund the Israeli genocide, neat.
Not new. Look at this article from 2016.
https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/cruel-experiments-israels-arms-industry
Fascists gonna fasc
a fucking cab
.....I had a sudden mental image of a fleet of black cabs skidding in sideways and riot police on horses pouring out, but their first card declined so they mill about digging through their wallets trying to pay the cabbies
Just remember to never get out of them.
Why not the Land Rover Tangi, or OVIK Pangolin? It works well in Northern Ireland
Tangi was an interim measure that somehow lasted almost 40 years. It’s very much out of date however. The company behind the Pangolin went bust in 2020. In any case, Land Rover stopped making Defenders a decade ago, and only make luxury vehicles now.