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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

USA has the Espionage Act. A violation of this law can be punishable by death, and whistleblowers and journalists have been targeted under this law in the past.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Roy Cohn, the guy who mentored Trump and was McCarthy's second AND had his own Lavender Scare (while he himself was gay) got his claim to fame when he sent a Jewish couple to death over this exact thing

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Does anyone else see a suspicious disconnect here? The actual legislation cited is a prohibition about "any intelligence cooperation with the Mossad". And what's more, this complaint is coming from Euronews, a news agency which is likely hostile to the regime. Whatever you think about the regime, I am pretty sure that cooperation with the enemy in wartime is maximally punishable in any country.

So my takeaway when I read this piece was that it sounded like a fox complaining that teeth and claws are forbidden in the chicken coop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

You're halfway there. Now ask yourself why a civilian has a distinction in their language when they're describing world leaders? Why is Iran ruled by a "regime" and any is Israel seeking "regime" change? Why are Western countries not ruled by "regimes"?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Yeah let's not forget who they are, the people in power in Iran. Worst scum on earth.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

it's a shame that when scum fights scum there are so many innocent civilians who will suffer. there are no good guys in this. A little bully with rich parents picked a fight with a big bully and everything that can come out of this will suck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there are no good guys in this.

There were no "good guys" in World War 2 either, and yet you don't see people going around squealing "both sides were scum!" At anyone who supported the allied

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

WWII is a very weird exception. Most people have this mentality for just about every war in history except for WWII and really recent wars. For some reason, in the West history starts and stops with WWII. That is the point of reference for everything, and it's the only war that's with a superhero comic lens where there is an ultimate good and an ultimate evil... but that's not really how history works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Agreed.

I give preference to Iranian civilians because it's a lot harder for them to relocate than it is for Israelis.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is it normal to allow people to send military information to your enemy?

I'm not a huge fan of either of the two belligerent, but this is not exactly an unreasonable position to take. And they are at least putting reporters on notice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean if they really just wanted to make sure military information doesn't reach Israel they wouldn't impose the death penalty; the excessive punishment makes it clear this is going to be used to suppress unrelated dissent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Information flow can never go backwards. There's plenty of examples of reporters or even social media compromising military operations. In at least a few cases, it has lead to the destruction of military assets. Once broadcast, the damage is done.

Trying to force reporters to think hard about what they are broadcasting is a good thing, from the point of view of national defence.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

Israel attacks Iran. Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago is now the root of all evil.

Talk of manufacturing consent in an unprovoked attack on another country. The scrambling to justify these attacks on Iran is real interesting.

See you tomorrow and the next day for an Iran did this bad thing story. Keep drip feeding that narrative.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (7 children)

When was Iran tolerable? They're still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they've been since the revolution.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

I recall seeing a lot of posts on here praising the leadership whenever they said anything negative about Trump

But that's about the only stuff positive about Iran I've seen on here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (14 children)

I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they're scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Sadly, Iran has not been "tolerable to the media" in recent times.

(Example: a few months ago, their courts were discussing whether to sentence a rapper named Tataloo to death for "corruption on earth" - singing about the wrong things.)

Since they are now in war, media freedom in Iran is probably under the table.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Lmao imagine thinking that Iran under the regime of the mullahs has ever had any sort of media freedom

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago

In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you read your sources, you'll realise Palestine is the worst. "Palestine has become the world’s most dangerous state for journalists, as almost 200 reporters were killed in Gaza by the Israeli army over the first 18 months of war, at least 42 of whom were likely killed due to their work. In the West Bank, where journalists were already the victims of abuses by both the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli occupying forces, Israeli pressure has intensified since 7 October 2023, with an increase in arrests of reporters and obstructions to their work."

2 bad guys are fighting it out here. One was an aggressor who started this conflict...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Clearly, and i never said the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago

Why are people upvoting you when you're wrong?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

People on this site are seriously out of touch

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I was going to say this is manufacturing consent, but given this is recent news I guess I can't complain.

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