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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

Without water, the delicate gill structures that exchange oxygen for carbon dioxide stick together, causing CO2 from respiration to accumulate. These rising levels trigger nociception – the body's alarm system – which causes the fish to gasp. Eventually the elevated CO2 levels acidify the animal's blood and cerebrospinal fluid, ultimately resulting in unconsciousness.

Holy shit. That's horrific.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's why there is Ikejime, the japanese method to dispatch fish

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I just use a fish bonker. A firm strike at the base of the head with a club is instant. I can't say if it preserves the meat as I normally eat it right away or store it for the winter months in the freezer.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The article does a shitty job of linking to the paper

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-04272-1

It makes a pretty good case that fish experience a lot of pain immediately after being taken out of the water.

I don't think this will do much to impact commercial fishing, it seems like it's targeted at the slaughter stages of fish farms

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our population voted someone into the highest office riding on the promise of drilling for more oil and increasing factory farming. We have atomized our culture so much that corporate forces have stripped people of their empathy and care and passion like an overripe banana and we don't mix perspectives anymore so that we can pull people back.

There's no hope of ending this misery until those of us who remain thinking with our minds get off the computer and start socializing, organizing, challenging people and pulling people into our idea of a better tomorrow. Most people don't even know where to find other people to talk to and debate with and this is by design. That's the trap we're in we need to break free of, and then maybe if we can get to that point we can start making cultured meats and alternative proteins a thing.

Otherwise, we're going to fish the oceans until they're dry and we will create hellish suffering for every life form involved until there's nothing left to feel pain.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that to a fish pain is more of a "get out of there" signal than what it is to us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

is what happens to us not in fact a "get out of here" signal to us? what makes you think a fishes subjective experience of pain is any more pleasant than your own?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Our pain isn't a "get out of here" signal, it's a "you've been hurt" signal. Fish don't have a reason to suffer. We do, because we're social creatures.

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[–] mintiefresh 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I believe this is why Japanese fishermen will sometimes use the ikijime method where you kill the fish fast. I believe it also improves the quality of the meat too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

With net fishing, they're still out of the water quite a long time whilst being hauled up, dumped, and sorted before being thrown in their sorted holding tank.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm still not going to tell you where my secret fishing spot is, no matter how many times you ask or scientific studies you perform.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

there's a trend on TikTok where you catfish (heh) men and ask them what their favorite fishing spot is

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Poor thing :(

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Bring back dynamite fishing then!

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