Punch them in the fucking face and 300 kick their asses out the door
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2025
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Every time he lies about vaccines you break one of his fingers and tell him lying is bad for his health.
Jokes aside, ask him who his doctor is, call up his doctor on speaker and ask the doctor if they'd recommend vaccines. He is almost certainly lying to you because he thinks "you believe doctors, ergo I will lie and say a doctor supports my position in an attempt to manipulate you".
“I’ll pay for yours if it means you can’t reproduce.”
"If that were true, I'd be trying even harder to make you take it."
If you think they’d be open to it, try Bayes’ theorem. Ask them to give percent likelihoods for the following:
A. The odds that the government (or whoever) is trying to kill everyone, before taking the evidence of excess deaths into account
B. The odds of seeing excess deaths for any possible reason, not just their conspiracy hypothesis
C. The odds of seeing excess deaths if the conspiracy hypothesis were true.
Then logically, the odds of the conspiracy being real given the excess deaths should be A*C/B. If you disagree with them on the outcome, you must disagree on one or more of the assumptions (probably A—if it’s B, you can find the objective odds by checking historical data).
If you still disagree on the prior assumption (A), you can set aside the excess deaths argument and ask what other evidence led them to form that prior assumption. Then you can repeat the process until you either reach agreement or they’re left with an assumption they have no evidence for.
You can't use logic to talk someone out of a position they didn't use logic to get into in the first place
Well, not with that attitude.
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They don't need a vaccine to depopulate when heart disease(695k/y), car accidents(40k/y), overdoses(82k/y), abortion(1m/y), and suicide(49k/y) kill far more people than the vaccine could possibly be linked to the COVID vaccines(8k in total).
Don't at me for including abortion, I support abortion access and want it to be a free service, but we are talking about depopulation means and abortion is a means to depopulate.
A pregnancy is not a person to count. That's anti-abortion rhetoric.
The question is: does it make sense for the government to ban abortions, just to kill ppl with vaccines on the other hand?
Get the vaccine. Best response.
IIRC there was a study where people with strong opinions talked to an Al and the process changed their minds.
Edit:
Durably reducing conspiracy beliefs through dialogues with AI https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adq1814
This is an easy one:
Ask them to point to the depopulation occurring.
On the graph the fuzzy dot is on June 2021 which was around the time that vaccines were in full availability. According to their logic we should see a decline occurring from the "depopulation" occurring from COVID vaccines. Where is that decline?
The growth rate is a better chart for that, because you can see the population growth drastically diminishing (because more deaths = less grow) until vaccines where made available and then it immediately goes back to normal. If someone wanted to depopulate all they had to do was prevent the vaccines from reaching people or have people not take the vaccine.
That's a cool suggestions. Where can one find something like that I wonder 🤔
If you click the source for the graph above and scroll down you'll have it there.
Ah, yes thx
Their bullshit causes a risk that someone else hesitate or pass on vaccination. You did an attempt at convincing. The responsible alternative is to make them feel uncomfortable bringing up the subject.
in 2025? Vaccines have been available for how many years now? Why does anyone even think about COVID vaccines anymore in this year? We would have figured out any adverse effects by now if there were any.
Just mock them.
"Yeah, sure. It's all apart of Elvis's plan to return as the antichrist."
You are allowed, and sometimes encouraged, to not say anything.
Remind them abortion is illegal in many places, that women are to be awarded certificates for having a "litter", and show them the article about the brain dead woman kept on life support for months to deliver a child slightly over one pound that now needs months in the NIC unit to survive.
Not deliver. They autopsied the woman to collect the baby. They had to collect it because the lady's body was decomposing. Because she was dead. Not brain dead. Dead.
Thanks for pointing this out.
It's almost like the woman was just a lab experiment at this point, in an effort to create a baby incubator.
Precisely. There has been talk of using brain dead women to breed kids. For fascists that solves so many problems. Men get to be as macho as they want, get to father a bunch of kids with no women demanding rights or respect, no consent required at all. For these guys the best woman is one that barely exists at all.
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Point taken.
Oh damn, I didn't know the baby's health was so, so bad. All that extra time of forcing "life" to still create a bad situation.
And the mother's family in beaucoup medical debt, as the cherry on top of this nightmare sundae.
Well I guess we agree that we should respect body autonomy.
But please be cognizant of the social consequences of not having herd immunity to protect the vulnerable and the perfectly reasonable judgement that your actions will result in the death of children, potentially including your own.
Ask them questions. Have them explain how, why. When you find contradictions or confusion, ask how they resolve them.
COVID is being used to depopulate and the vaccine is for those who want to survive
Yes they are. Those who don't take them help depopulate the planet
Arceus, if it only worked faster...
"It couldn't hurt to get a second opinion, at least, right?"
Slap them in the face to bring them back to their senses.
I’m on the ONS site and there’s mountains of publications and data on Covid. Which publication did they read?
"More vaccines for me"
Not even gonna fact check myself I'm just gonna bet excess deaths fell off dramatically when the vaccine became widespread. Literally the opposite of what you'd expect if the vax was killing people.