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No keys, full of unnecessary electronic gadgets, heavier, bigger, clumsier handling, no manual transmission option, filled to the brim with spyware, subscription based features that used to just be pay once to have it, uses huge wheels and tires that are more expensive to replace, touchscreen controls for everything, full of obnoxious and intrusive driver aids....

I'm going to keep my car until it is a pile of rust. Then I'm probably riding a motorcycle everywhere unless the car market somehow de-enshitifies itself.

My 2003 dodge ram is still kicken after 260,000 miles. If it dies on me I'm gonna crashout. New cars are impossible to maintain I stg

LMAO, f keys, when I switched I instantly fell in love.

• No more digging for keys
• No more fumbling
• Much easier to unlock with full hands
• Really easy to leave the car running and lock it from the outside
• The key can be ANYWHERE in the car e.g. gym bag

When it comes to cars, half the time I swear the complaints are just old car heads who just hate those "new fangled features". Like the need for "manual" transmissions because automatic sucks, automatic transmissions haven't sucked for a long while now. Initially it did, but it's quite refined now.

Fuck the subscriptions though, I want the "fancy electronic features" just sans subscriptions and data collection

My 2020 Subaru Crosstrek has a key and a manual transmission.

When all the old cars are gone and I have to drive something newer than 2013 I'm going to just kill myself

I drove a couple 90's shitboxes that were still gracefully deteriorating one piece at a time. New cars are made for people who buy new cars instead of the second hand market

Had a 2006 Subaru Baja, stupidly traded it in on a Tacoma "because I needed something bigger." The guy who bought the Baja off the dealer tracked me down online, because the story about the crazy Baja guy followed the vehicle (affectionately known as the caruck). Three years later, I caught his forum DM and called him. Had a good hour long discussion about the Baja and asked for first dibs if he ever sold it.

Fast forwards a few years, and it blew a headgasket outside Saugerties, NY. I gave him $1,500 cash and towed it home. Chassis was all rotted out, so I bought another '06 Baja from Virginia and shipped it north. It turned out to have a bum engine (water pump leaking bad, and oil sitting on top of the block). Swapped engines, drove it for another year and a half when the head gaskets blew again. She sits out front now, ready for the next set of hgs.

I'm not making the same mistake and getting rid of my Baja again. I'll keep throwing head gaskets and whatever else I need to keep her running... And soaking her in Fluid Film.

Crazy Baja guy. That's me.

I wonder, is there any vehicle rating service that goes off of privacy and security? Some source that tells us what cars have what data collection, and possibly how to turn it off?

My car is dying soon, and I could use a replacement. It would be nice to have that information on hand when shopping.

2003 fiat doblo and 1990 fiat uno. Two tanks, one of which i've managed to keep going myself. they're some of the best i've driven (not like that says mutch...)

Why did stellantis have to destroy fiat?

Drove my father's 2020 F350 the other day. Has keys, but everything feels so fragile. Door handles and tailgate handle all feel like I can break them off if I pull slightly too hard. In fact, the tailgate handle already pulled off and we fixed it with PL Construction Adhesive. Never felt like I was going to pull the handles off of my 1999 F250. Never gonna git rid of that thing. If it gets in a wreak, I'll pull the engine and trans and stick it in something even older.

Someone stole a truck in my neighborhood last month. I had never heard of the attack before. They bring a laptop up to the house and use a directional scan to find your car keys (in your house) they replicate the code using the laptop and keep it going as they drive away in your car.

Had to get something new, (thanks Ford for making water pumps that instantly nuke engines when they fail because they're driven by the timing system inside the timing cover #@^% you Ford) and since used car prices were SO insane I got a new Civic- a 2024 with a 2 liter and a six speed manual.

Sure, it's "keyless" but dang it, it sure seems like a pretty great little car. Port injected even, so no ruined/carbon'ed up valves for me.

I hear the new ones don't offer a manual any more unless you buy an SI/R? That sucks.

I had a 1995 celica. I miss that car, now it's near impossible to find them.