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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Step 1: Get help from NATO in the middle the east. Step 2: Once NATO needs your help withdraw. Step 3: PROFIT.

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[–] carlossurf 15 points 1 day ago

Gotta make daddy putin happy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

So is it their goal to turn the US into an irrelevant backwater or what?

So far they've introduced bills that diminish their own military force, decimated global trading relationships, now they're trying to back out of the final commitments they have left. By the time 2030 rolls around no one will want to be president because they'll have no power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah they want to attack whoever they feel like without having to go through a meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As directed by Vladamir Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It seems highly unlikely for this to pass. There are so many bills being proposed but often it's not actually relevant since it's going nowhere.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mike Lee is obviously a fucking traitor lol Americans stand up for your country and shoot the motherfucker

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Just removing the US from another world stage

Soon we will be completely irrelevant

Which is the plan

[–] skisnow 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish they were just removing themselves from the world stage. What they're actually doing is shifting away from a model of direct co-operation with allied nations and strong economic ties with otherwise less friendly nations, to unilateral action wherever and whenever they feel like it.

Their foreign policy isn't moving towards isolationism, it's moving towards unchecked fascist domination.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gonna be as isolated at North Korea by the end of this administration. As trusted too.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

wow, even after NATO members helped US.

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[–] [email protected] 283 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (21 children)

Look how stupid your country is, to hand the death of NATO to Putin because you’re on his side.

Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.

Fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 3 days ago (11 children)

We're pretty pissed off at ourselves right now too. I'm sorry things got this far and wish I could offer more than fear and frustration...

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (9 children)

They want out because it's stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

US: We want you to spend more on defence!
Europe: Ok, we will buy more, from our own companies!
US: That's not what I meant! I'm going home!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I had so many brain dead idiots attack me over at Reddit, for claiming America would withdraw from NATO if trump won. They weren’t just Americans, but also Europeans.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does the bill include all military installation closures and those that are on European territories? For example Greenland. If MAGA wants out, then GTFO and I do not want hear any crying afterwards because that will give the Europeans every excuse not purchase US made weapons. I'm certain US MIC lobbyists will weasel their way in to tear apart the bill.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's just stirring shit to get his name out there isn't he?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Utahns generally don't like to draw attention to themselves as firebrands (e.g. Mitt Romney, Orrin Hatch), so methinks the Senator is planning to get into the 2028 presidential primary.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hol up. Didn't NATO guy wank all over daddy's boobs already?

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