Please report any genocide denying US democrats below. They set up shop on a lot of the fediverse, but we don't have to provide them a space here.
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I can't tell what on the left is doing. Someone help?
If you are being serious that's Derek Chauvin murdering George Floyd
I was. Never saw photo before thanks for helping
From Wikipedia:
And the guy representing the DNC is Tou Thao, who prevented onlookers from intervening in the murder. Highly appropriate meme.
Of course!
Thanks, that is very helpful as I had no idea what the OP image was
Not exactly. The mass pig expansion program across the country in the 1990s was spearheaded by Bill Clinton. The pro pig Dems are just as actively racist and murderous as the pro pig Reps.
Bombs vs bombs with rainbow flags.
That depends entirely on who we vote for in the primaries.
See: Zohran Mamdani for an example
To be fair, Mamdani is facing massive backlash from the Dem establishment.
That's the thing; most democrat politicians hate him nearly as much as the republican ones do, as they're more similar to one another than either is to him. There are a few exceptions, but we're going to need people aligned with Mamdani to be the norm rather than the exception if we want the democratic party to become a real force for good.
I doubt it's possible for the DNC to be a force for good, better to have a new party entirely.
Why? The party is dead. They're just holding onto their seats
Take the seats, you take it all. Keep the infrastructure of the party, keep the name recognition and the data they have, and replace the members
It's happening already - Hoggs funneled money into Mumdani's primary even as they try to ratfuck him out...
If the party is dead, why rely on a party designed from the ground up to serve wealthy donors? Entryism doesn't work.
Better in a vacuum, yes, but as /u/disguy_[email protected] pointed out, a huge amount of voters pay absolutely no attention, and just vote for whatever color they've always voted for. Hell, a bunch of people searched "Did Joe Biden drop out?" on election day, because they paid so little attention that they didn't even know about Harris. That's an extreme example, sure, but it's just not a realistic expectation to think people will really think hard about a 3rd party, especially when it won't get a proportionate amount of attention even if it got a huge amount of support, thanks to the billionaire-backed media.
If we don't get someone into one of the 2 established parties, we're crippling ourselves, likely to the point of immediate failure. It would be significantly more viable to change one of the parties by flooding it with new socialist politicians than it would be to build up a new platform based on socialism from the start.
Nah, entryism is a proven failure. As conditions worsen, people pay increasingly more attention to politics. Reformism in general is a lost cause, revolution is necessary, but entryism is especially bad.
It can’t have been proven without participation. Congressional primaries haven’t seen more than 15% attendance in over 40 years. We’ve been allowing retirees from the Silent Generation and now Boomers to decide our candidates. Gen X and younger need to actively participate in primaries and attempt to take the party over before we can actually say we’ve proven anything.
The US does not have a unique set of physics that only it applies to. We have a wealth of historical experience proving the ineffectiveness of entryism, even in the US. People have tried this, it doesn't work, and even if it did miraculously work we would have a worse party than if we put all of that effort into building up PSL.
That doesn’t matter at all. He won the primary with a grassroots campaign, so he doesn’t need their funding. Being in the blue/Working Families column will win the know-nothing vote in NYC.
The key is for us to seek out the progressive on the primary ballot and vote. We shouldn’t be rewarding the candidates that have the financial means to find us in our living rooms. Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule.
It's less about funding, and more about the fuckery they can do by making Cuomo run as an independent. Electoralism will never be the permanent answer, revolution is still necessary, but Mamdani is still good for now.
Or the wtfery they can do by denationalization.
The Democratic party is terrified of that dude. Primary all of them.
100%. There are primaries all the time. The only difference with Zohran is we showed up.
And because he won that primary 2 other mainstream "Dems" are going to be challenging him in the General as well.
not really just that, as the system resists when actual socialists get into significant power in capitalist institutions.
weve been there, done that. i assure you they will be doing their best to stop or coopt him, if they aint already.
the bright side is you just got an opportunity to actually really improve things materially, hes a good sign. this will depend more on his supporters than himself though, and i don't think the us public is just about ready to actually really materially support a socialist dissident in power.
It's June, so the democrat cop should have a pride pin.
Careful you're going to make Godric very angry and he will have to be the adult in the room
Yeah. But also a quick test to see how far gone American society is: if the Dems get elected it means that, at least for the sake of optics and spin, morals play some sort of role still.
Don't kid yourself. Rich Democrats love dirty cops.
I'm talking about getting a read on the country, but yeah, rich fucks (the truly rich ones) worship money. 🤷