Didnt russia invade ukraine because there were nazis in the country that need to be fleshed out or something? Is it time russia invades russia?
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Russia has a long fucking history of invading “Russia”.
Dagestani people are mostly Sunni Muslim. So I would call the group in this instance Islamic extremists, or just conservative Muslims, and not Nazis. Antisemitism is kind of baked into the Quran, sadly. Not to mention modern history between the two groups kind of fuels that fire.
That's not to say that there aren't actual Nazis in Russia, and there may have even been a few involved here. To be fair, its getting hard to tell the difference between Nazis, and extremely conservative people of most every religious denomination nowadays. So I guess your point still stands.
Not totally true. Arab Muslims and Arab Jews lived mostly peacefully together for many hundreds of years. It's like saying antisemitism is baked into the Bible. It sortof is, but not really. You have to stretch things and manipulate it to do that, and try to force people to care. Most people just want to live their lives. Making any of this Israel stuff about religion just plays into Israel's playbook. Arab Jews lived in that region without murdering the Muslims for a long time. It's the European colonial Zionists that started murdering and saying Muslims couldn't live there with them peacefully.
I would also absolutely say that antisemitism is baked into the Bible. Antisemitism is baked into a lot of things throughout history, too. I am not trying to say that all Muslims and Christians are antisemitic, but their writings most definitely are, and it gives people an excuse to be that way whenever is convenient. Also, none of this excuses what Israel has done and is doing to Gaza.
It really depends on the notion of "Jews in general" vs "a particular group of Jews". The Quran seems to mostly say things about a particular batch of Jews. The most general comment about I can find in the Quran actually discussed by a rabbi in comedic fashion. The same rabbi also has TONS of examples of antisemitism in the New Testament but seems to have a very high opinion of Islam.
This was an interesting discussion, thanks for posting. I learned a bit about the actual history behind that passage, and it cleared up some of my own misunderstanding as a heathen from a Muslim family. I think the problem lies in the fact that conservative Muslims can still use those passages to justify antisemitism, but that's not unique to Islam obviously.
These books are so vague and out of touch with the modern world that people can use them to construct any sort of meaning that they want to it seems. It's the only explanation for why some of the followers can be all about peace and harmony, and other followers of the same book are focused on doom and war.
I feel like it mostly comes to hypocrisy and impatience. As individuals we decide on the amount we absorb of a religion into our daily lives. I would say that those who absorb just enough religion to bolster the narratives and views they already built are misusing an important tool. For instance, if you hated a particular group (in this case: Jews), you could simply stop narrating the following after the first sentence:
In the first generation of Islam, many efforts were made to establish a believing community with the Jews; and one by one, each of these [Arabian] Jewish tribes betrayed those Muslims. However, when those same Muslims took over Jerusalem, the prohibition of Jews in Jerusalem was lifted in order to let Jews worship in Jerusalem. It's obvious that the first generation of Muslims did not blame all Jews for the betrayal of SEVERAL tribes.
The crazy thing is they are all almost exactly the same religion
Right. Religion ruins everything.
It’s Russians all the way down…
They're not Russians.
Русский, no — Российский, yes.
Don't they have Russian "passport" ? How can you tell Russian apart? Are e.g Siberians also not Russians ?
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If you beleive Putin, Russia invaded Russia by invading Ukraine!
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So pogroms are back, that’s probably not a great sign for the species
Bruh, you think race riots ever went away. They've just been gone for the Jews. There was literally a race war between Hindus and Christians in Manipur, India earlier this year. Muslims have been actively cleansed in Burma for a half decade now. There was a decades long war between the Sinhalese and Tamil people in Sri Lanka. There were the 2002 Gujrat Riots where 2000 Muslims were killed where the government condoned the violence and actively refused to intervene. The same man is in charge of India now with the largest mandate ever.
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The article I read yesterday, mention a viral rumor about Israel coming to annex Dagestan.
Dagestan has no monopoly on stupid people.
It was an attack, it's just you can't really make Doncaster any worse so no one noticed.
The Donny Soldier stood his ground and cried out the battlecry of Doncaster to the invading Hamas soldiers.
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Christ on a shitstick.
This sounds so absolutely fucked to literally anyone who doesn't live in Dagestan. I've pored over maps of Russia and I didn't even know that existed.
Least racist ruzzian propaganda
Wtf.
This is in the Dagestan Republic, which is mostly Muslim. While many of the mostly-Christian Russians are indeed anti-Semitic these days (indeed, in regards to the war in Ukraine I’ve seen some comment on social media about how “it’s DA JOOOOOZ” because Zelensky is a Jew and America has the second-largest Jewish population after Israel), this is a case of religious extremism by people brainwashed by Arab countries’ propaganda, who think all Israelis are evil. To be completely fair though, Ruzzia pretending to care about Palestinians probably didn’t help either.
reminds me of something
This is the best summary I could come up with:
MOSCOW (AP) — Hundreds of people stormed into the main airport in Russia’s Dagestan region and onto the landing field Sunday, chanting antisemitic slogans and seeking passengers arriving on a flight from Tel Aviv, Israel, Russian news agencies and social media reported.
Antisemitic slogans can be heard being shouted and some in the crowd examined the passports of arriving passengers, apparently in an attempt to identify those who were Israeli.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs for Russia’s North Caucasian Federal District, where Dagestan is located, said that CCTV footage would be used to establish the identities of those who stormed the airport and that those involved would be brought to justice.
Federal authorities and international organizations are making every effort to bring about a ceasefire against Gaza civilians … we urge residents of the republic not to succumb to the provocations of destructive groups and not to create panic in society,” the Dagestani government wrote on Telegram.
He called the protests a “knife in the backs of those who gave their lives for the security of the Motherland,” referring to the 1999 war in Dagestan and troops currently fighting in Ukraine.
Russia’s civilian aviation agency, Rosaviatsia, later reported that the airfield had been cleared, but that the airport would remain closed to incoming aircraft until Nov. 6.
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