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Here's an easier solution: make real estate a poor investment by raising property taxes. It either works (great) or it doesn't (also great, because now the government has more money and more resources to build out infrastructure and housing).
That would put a lot of pressure on those who are struggling.
Taxes should be income based.
The city already has programs in place to reduce and write off property tax bills from people who are struggling.
Income is a poor measure of wealth.
You can make the tax apply only to corporate owners, or properties that are not an individual's primary residence.
Yes that would be a good idea. Disincentivise hoarders.
I'm in the lowest tax bracket. I only made about $34k last year. The amount of income tax I paid was equivalent to about 25% of my total wealth.
Calculate 25% of your total wealth. How would it feel to pay that much in taxes? Because that's how much I paid.
Fuck income tax.
What province do you live in?
How much is 25% of your total wealth?
I want to know which province you live in to know what the tax brackets are.
I want to know what 25% of your total wealth is so you can be confronted with number and forced to think about what it would be like to pay as much tax as I do.
My friend, I'm not against you. I don't know why you're acting like this.
Everytime I bring that figure up, everyone questions my wealth and my income and my taxes, but nobody reflects on their own wealth and what it would be like to carry the tax burden I'm saddled with.
That's point of the statement: to make you consider just how large and unfair my tax burden is. Especially in comparison to people who are many times richer than I am, yet have a tax burden that is a mere fraction of mine.
Of course we question your revenue!!!
You claim that you pay 25%, yet don't reveal your income and province. And what is that 25%? Is that average tax or marginal? If it's average, that means that you make well over 100k per year! Anyone can find that out using an income tax calculator online.
Bro TOTAL WEALTH. 25% of my TOTAL WEALTH. It's less than 25% of my income, because my total wealth is less than my yearly income.
Marginal or average brackets have nothing to do with it because I'm talking about the tax burden I have relative to my TOTAL WEALTH.
This is why it's frustrating. Everyone ignores the single most important part: this is about TOTAL WEALTH.
TOTAL WEALTH.
TOTAL WEALTH.
Is that clear yet ffs
No it's not clear.
What the heck are you even on about your total wealth???
We're talking tax brackets on income tax! Or taxing people based on revenue.
What does your total wealth have anything to do with this? Heck, I own a bunch of shit, some is more valuable, it's part of my total wealth, but I sure ain't taxed on it because THAT'S NOT HOW INCOME TAXES WORK!
Taxes being income based puts more pressure on those who are struggling than land value or wealth taxes.
I think taxes should be mostly wealth based, not income based.
You want to know why?
Because it's easy for some rich bastard to report zero income while having billions in assets.
Someone who already can't make end's meet would feel the sting of any amount of taxation in day-to-day life compared to a billionaire.
Wealth hoarding should be severely taxed. You want more land than humanly acceptable? Six houses at 10,000sq+ each? 15 cars? A tennis court and equestrian ranch for friends and family? Fine, get ready to pay a lot for it on an ongoing basis.
well not across the board, we want to discourage investment purchasing, not owning a family home. Multiple dwellings should be taxed extremely high, and shell corporations who buy and rent homes need to somehow be cracked down on.
Or why not tax income made from rental homes to an insane degree - need to make renting out homes not attractive to investors. If there is little benefit to renting out dwellings, it might encourage investors to sell off homes. Further encourage selling to non-wealthy people through more tax incentives or something.
Stepped tax rates for each property you own.
1st property normal rates.
2nd property 2x normal rate
3rd property 3x normal rate etc.
Need to figure out how to ban shell corporation ownership of property though.