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Pratchett wasnt an asshole too was he? Ive tried discworld but havent managed to get into it but i still want too.
Every new thing I hear about pratchett is how great of a person he was. Literally never heard anything negative about him.
When he heard that trans people were identifying with the dwarves in his novels, he was like "that wasn't the intent but I'm happy all kinds of people are finding themselves in my characters", so just generally great.
To put on one of his plays, you don't pay his estate, you give a donation to a urangutan preservation society.
'To put on one of his plays, you don't pay his estate, you give a donation to a urangutan preservation society. '
I didn't know that, and now I love the man even more.
Not as far as I'm aware. They wrote a book together in the late eighties and stayed in touch but Gaiman lived the rock and roll lifestyle while Pratchett lived in the countryside with his wife and daughter. Even people closer to Gaiman didn't know, so it seems likely Sir Terry was completely unaware of what he was really like. The sad part is, Gaiman was a huge fan and drew on Pratchett's work a lot, but he may have also cultivated the friendship and deployed it on every possible occasion as a kind of shield. So it would be tough on the Pratchett Estate to cancel this entirely. If Gaiman had any love for his mentor then he'd back away from this project too and do something like donate any money coming his way to charity.
And if you look up Colleen Doran's history, she's suffered sexual harassment and assaults in her time in the comic industry and has been vocal in calling this out. Yet she has worked with Gaiman for decades. If she has seen anything iffy she would have spoken up. She's made a statement about the allegations on her Patreon, although she hasn't gone into detail about the graphic novel because things are still up in the air. She has used some of the money from this for her cancer treatment.
I love them, snatched them up as they came out. Definitely give them a chance, they're brilliant.
The nature of the accusations means only his partners at the time would have known unless they told someone else.
Deliberately violating consent during rough sex, etc, not sleezing around young fans or using power against subordinates.
Some of it was partly using power against subordinates, but they wouldn't tell either.
I wont comment on Pratchett since i dont really know much about him. But i do seriously want to get into discworld, ive only read the first guards guards book and i liked most of the characters. But the story seemed to bounce around and just came off as nonsensical. By the end i found i liked parts of the book but coulent feel connected nor cared about the story. Did i pick the wrong storyline to start with? I read guards guards was one of the better storylines
Small gods is a good book, and fully self contained.
Pratchett sometimes struggles to tie things up nicely at the end, but you read his novels for the journey, not the destination.
Monstrous Regiment shows how DEI friendly he was.
Weird way to put it but I guess
I don't understand what was weird about what I wrote. Is this a blind spot I should be concerned about?
I would advise not starting with the early books. Going Postal may be a good place to start.
Yeah, I'd just start with The Colour of Magic, which is where I started because it was the only one. There are Reading guides and Terry Pratchett suggests starting on Sourcery but I'd just blast through The Colour of Magic -> The Light Fantastic -> Sourcery and if it still isn't working for you, move on to something else.
The nice thing about discworld is it evolves and spans so much that there's dozens of genres in there to try
(Start with reaper man)
Pratchett was one of the incredible good people IMO.
The first few Discworld books were pretty rough.
After a couple he stops killing off half the characters every novel and it falls into a rhythm.
I literally don't care if he was, he created something amazing. I'm sure he was an arsehole to somebody at some point during his life?
Undoubtedly, but probably not while wearing his author's hat.
By that logic, many of Gaiman's works are ok as well since by all accounts, he didn't turn into a predator until later in his career after many of his most popular works were already finished. It sounds a lot like fame unlocked something dark in him.
I think the works and author are separate. However, borrowing from library or buying any Gaiman books will benefit the author, so the whole literature becomes tainted, including Gaimans books with coauthors.
The literal hat? I'm not sure he ever took that off.
The hat’s an antidisguise, one that you remove in order to be unrecognized. It’s amazing. It works beautifully. Without the hat I can join the huge fraternity of bald men with glasses, and amble around the place without people looking hard at me and saying, “You’re you, aren’t you? Here, could you sign this for my wife? She won’t believe me when I tell her.” It’s not that I mind that stuff, but sometimes a man just wants to go out to buy a tube of glue and some spanners.
Damn, he really thought of everything.