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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Just wait till he dies and the next person in charge decides to go public to make a quick buck. That'll begin the immediate enshitification of Steam. How many years do we got till he croaks? Ten? Fifteen? Better hope we have a better alternative before then.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    A very typical arc for innovation is that the first organizational goal is getting people to buy it, then the next goal is getting them to keep buying it again and again. The original visionaries who were trying to solve a problem tend to lose interest by then and drop out, and the money weasels completely take over. New versions are released on a marketing schedule regardless of whether they're necessary, and the thing begins to suck progressively more and more until some new player shows up to solve that problem.

    Rinse and repeat.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    doesnt gabe already do basically nothing though? afaik there are other people managing valve and he only acts as valve's face

    also theyd have to be extremely stupid to start enshittification when they already have the best ways to monetize games (skins in cs2, hats in tf2, etc)

    im not saying its not possible, im just a very optimistic person

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    also theyd have to be extremely stupid to start enshittification when they already have the best ways to monetize games (skins in cs2, hats in tf2, etc)

    Micro$oft also has the most dominant operating system in the market. Yet, with every update, I find an increase in "switched to GNU/Linux" and "Debloat Windows" stuff

    Google once had the best search engine in the world, delivering the most relevant search results. Now it delivers the most relevant ads.

    Mozilla was initially the innovator of the internet, seemingly destined to dominate the market. Then, it abandoned^(†) its main product, the browser, to pursue other endeavors that ultimately failed. The only reason that Firefox is relevant is due to the fact that even when stale, Firefox is much less enshittified than its competitors (and not dependent on Chromium).

    ^(†) Mozilla basically stopped innovating with Firefox until recently. On desktop Firefox, vertical tabs are absent; only recently, in nightly versions, have they been implemented. On Android, Firefox still lacks cross-site isolation, which has been in Chromium for basically forever now.
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

    and steam is the largest game store, but that's not what i was talking about.

    microsoft's money doesn't come just from windows, and from seeing how shitty it has (and will) become, they want to get more money from it than they already have. that could be because windows doesnt produce enough money for microsoft or for other reasons.

    google's money comes from advertisements. as google grew to be used everywhere, there needed to be a better way to get money from it, so they started doing more advertising.

    just like google's search engine, firefox doesn't produce money by itself. but mozilla didn't have any other means of producing money, so they had to do something else for that, even if it didn't work.

    valve's money comes from the games and items sold in steam. people aren't going to stop producing or buying games and in-game items any time soon.

    all of the other companies had to change their main way to produce money, because that wasn't producing enough money. but if valve changes anything they'll just be shooting themselves in the foot, because steam already produces an almost ulimited amount of money for valve.

    [–] CileTheSane -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I'm not going to use something that's shitty now in hopes it will be better later in order to avoid using something that's better now out of fear it might become shitty later.

    If Steam becomes shitty I have no issue dropping it and pirating my already paid for collection.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

    I'd like you to point to where I said you should use something shitty now.