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President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida.

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[–] [email protected] 255 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hopefully they remember that when the time comes to make choices.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We knew this from the last time around

Evidence suggests they do not make the correct choice

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk. The military did not go along with the coup attempt. That is a win in my book.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also my understanding was that Gen. Milley didn't go along with troops on the streets during the pandemic/protests when Trump wanted it. Hence the stripping of the general's security detail and clearance by our whiny bitch president on his return.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

That's good for us. Now he plays for our team.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump only cares about his daughter and other chicks he wants to fuck. He has no use for anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I think "cares" is too strong a word. It would imply that it matters to him if they live or die.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So trump wants to fuck Putin? …oh. Yeah, that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Probably literally.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What does it matter? He has their unwavering support. He could have killed them himself and not lost the military's support.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's not really true. He has the unwavering support of really old veterans who got the same fox news pill as the other boomers. The serving military voted blue in 2020. The Military Times elected not to do a poll in 2024...

There are very vocal service members who support him but the military as a whole does not and is not a fan of Hegseth fucking around in the DoD either. For example one published plan has us divesting our only mobile firepower platforms (strykers), just as the war in Ukraine is making everyone else want them. And F-47 did not go unnoticed either. The Air Force went from a study wondering if we needed NGAD to selecting a vendor without a flyoff and naming it. That thing is going to get ditched January 21st 2029. Then Hegseth is fucking around with physical fitness tests which is actually promotions, schools, and unit qualifications. This is making the most deadly parts of military dislike him. For example we've had women working with Delta for 20 years. First of all Delta isn't giving them up, 20 years ago women were officially banned from combat and that didn't stop them. Second it just conditions them to be anti-administration. So when they get ordered to go get an American "insurgent" who held a sign outside a Tesla dealership one too many times, they may just refuse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nearly 60% of active duty voted for him for his second term. This is not much change from the percentages for 2016 and 2020.

They may be regretting their choice but I see no indication they wouldn't make the same choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'd love to see a source for that. Afaik nobody did an active duty poll this time. And in 2020 the military voted blue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

military members are notoriously conservative, additionally they source thier fodder from rural and red areas, and usually are mostly white. 2ndary targets are disadvantaged POCs areas, especially the ones that cant pay for colleges.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also require a high school degree and an entrance exam. And officers are sourced solely from University graduates.

This is not your grandpa's military.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yea officer different path, either academy, ROTCS, or officer candidate school. ROTC is where they are mostly sourced, academy needs like "Grad degree-like qualifications, LORS, congressional reccomendation,,,etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Soldiers refusing to follow orders because they do not like the government? Sorry but that sounds delusional. Sure they might be slightly less harsh, but that is it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's already happened, last time Trump was president. The Joint Chiefs told him no to his face.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with actual soldiers doing the dirty work? And isn't he also replacing people left and right for the same reason?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Somebody has to give them orders. It's not like it happens magically. And we've spent 70 years building an officer corps willing to tell presidents no. And at the lower levels I'm not going to deny he'll find people willing to do his dirty work. The military is a reflection of society. But that works both ways and there's a giant difference between a military willing to act as a whole and having to find people willing to follow orders.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure. Certainly, the weirdos who make the military their whole personality back him, but I haven't seen any evidence that he's outstandingly popular with the rank and file and his plans to completely gut the officer corps can't have made him popular there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump hates everything that is not Donald J. Trump.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hey, that's not fair. He's also weirdly into Ivanka Trump.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

stop trying to make trump sound good

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump likes the part where the military conquers other countries. He hates service members, veterans, and all humans.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What did he call soldiers that die? Losers?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Especially soldiers who "got captured".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate suckers and losers, too, that's why I avoid interacting with MAGA Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

trump also doesnt like when they are captured or dead,.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's the big difference. I like MAGA Nazis best when they're dead.