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The Great Canadian Reset (self.canada)

submitted 12 hours ago by ininewcrow to c/canada

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Did everyone notice how this election wiped out all the previous leaders and now we're faced with being introduced to a new crowd of political leaders.

Elizabeth May with the Green Party is the only one still standing.

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[–] Trakata 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, don’t aggrandize Conservatism like that.

It and facism have strong ideological ties in that they both take root in the idea of a ruling monarchy, which is how we actually got here.

The only difference between it and the big F are how many people are in actual control, and how overt they are about removing civil rights.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Conservative is what, auth-right...right?

Which is militant and hierarchical, without rights for anyone but those at the top. With dissenters shot and killed absolutely. Fight for this ideal with any means or join the ~~army~~ Nazis.

Auth-left is the exact same, but rights for everyone. With dissenters shot and killed absolutely. Fight for this ideal with any means or join the ~~army~~ rebellion.

Lib-left is rights for everybody, but with chaos. Nobody gets shot. No militancy. Fight for this ideal by talking and loving and making everybody smarter and wiser and more peaceful and cooperative.

Lib-right is no rights for anyone but those at the top, with chaos. Nobody gets shot and no militancy, they'll just take away your rights with economic power and selectively withholding education. Fight for this ideal by taking resources from those who you believe who are at the bottom of the ranking of caste because it's the natural order and has no consequences. May only the strongest survive. Don't help anybody else, unless they're a threat, then grovel, unless you can murder them and take their money.

[–] Trakata 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure that’s a useful topography if you’re an AI only familiar with a meme graph chart and think in black and white devoid of any nuance.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Or if you think about what the actual end goals are for each quadrant

[–] Trakata 8 points 6 hours ago

I understand where you’re coming from, but actual meatspace reality is starkly different to hypothetically working out the end goal threat model of each quadrant and stating it aligns.

Completely dehumanizing the conversation to prop up ridiculous arguments with false equivalence to a meme graph is not an effective argument.