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[–] BlameThePeacock 36 points 1 month ago (51 children)

I'll repeat again, I don't need a fucking tax cut. I need the price of housing to start going down.

Increase taxes on property significantly, and use 100% of that money to give everyone a basic income.

This incentivizes both people and developers to be efficient with their housing choices. Using too much housing for the area you live in? You pay extra to help out everyone. Using the right amount? No harm to you. Using less than the average? Here's a payout, thank you.

Prices overall will drop, because it's no longer profitable to simply own a home due to the taxes, and especially not if there's no people in it because the taxes won't be offset by the basic income.

[–] BCsven 19 points 1 month ago (13 children)

All they need to do is make it so you can only own one residence, if you own a second as income property it should be taxed to the point that you want to sell it.

I was in the rental stream before and at least 1 landlord was foreign owners from mainland China--the property had sat empty for six months before us because owner was rich and didn't care about the 2k month they were losing. Another was an unlocatable landlord, the strara paperwork showed China owner, but correspondence was coming from Korean contact info. It started to look more like shell company ownership. Also have two friends who's Vancouver places are Asian owned. Owners moved back to China and main house was vacant for 2+ years, just single basement tennant paying utilities to make place "occupied".

[–] BlameThePeacock 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is a red herring.

I ran the calculations a while back, that may free up 2-4% of all housing, that is not enough to fix the problem of expensive housing. That's only 1-2 years of new building stock.

It won't hurt to do it, but it's simply not the main reason real estate is expensive.

[–] BCsven 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We definitely need more housing across canada, but BC has been notorious for vacant homes and airbnb units, thus the ban on airbnb and the added vacancy tax out here.

[–] BlameThePeacock 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And it should be obvious that despite new regulations being put in for Foreign buyers, Vacant units, and Airbnb, the prices haven't dropped to even pre-pandemic levels, let alone any useful amount, and they're expected to keep climbing this year.

These are all small red herrings that are easy PR wins for the government, but don't actually do anything useful to the prices.

[–] BCsven 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They did drop for us in Vancouver. I'm not suggesting it accounts for the high prices everywhere but it definetly had a market affect as airbnb people dumped their additional units. One owner had over 40

[–] BlameThePeacock 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or it just happened to coincide with a massive jump in interest rates which also affected prices elsewhere that didn't implement these policies.

[–] BCsven 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No there are articles about the affect upon announcement and then institution

[–] BlameThePeacock 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and yet if you go look at the charts for say Vancouver and Toronto over the same period of time you can clearly see there's little to no effect from BC's policy changes.

And it's still a couple million dollars to buy a detached home in Vancouver, and the cheapest 2 bedroom condo is a half million (and it's literally on East Hastings) with most normal 2 bedrooms being listed at $600-700k

These policies haven't made anything affordable, and they aren't going to make things affordable.

[–] BCsven 2 points 1 month ago

Oh they didn't make it affordable, I just meant we saw price drop in market and assessments. Prices here are ridiculous. We paid 415k for 2 bedroom apartment, now it is 575k but before the changes they were selling for 675k sight unseen, just buyers snapping them up

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

And thus many of those buyers moved to other Canadian cities and did the same thing as Vancouver.

[–] k0e3 2 points 1 month ago

As someone who's trying to move back to Canada, I'm also reading that a lot of the places owned by these investors are basically useless boxes that no local would live in. So even if they got freed up, there'd be very little demand for them.

[–] vaccinationviablowdart 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

extremely curious what such a calculation entails?

[–] BlameThePeacock 1 points 1 month ago

I looked up the statscan data for home ownership and cross referenced it against other statscan data on rental buildings and locations of secondary homes(cottages and lake homes)

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