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[–] [email protected] 204 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.

Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

[–] TheFeatureCreature 149 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Buying a game post-launch:

  • Better prices; often on sale.
  • Fixed and patched up.
  • Extra content often included.
  • DRM often removed.

No brainer, imo.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago

You forgot a bonus point:

  • Hardware requirements are now easier/cheaper to meet/exceed.
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Preordering games: I need this digital product before jt goes up in price or runs out of copies!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Runs out of copies? Is that a thing?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Like rain on your wedding day?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Whoever came up with that deserves credit. Entirely lovely and harmless “superstition” as far as I can tell. No one is hoping for rain so they won’t be disappointed, but everyone has that line (“lucky it’s raining on your wedding day“ or whatever) ready just in case.

I wonder if there are other white lie kinda pro-social quips like that

[–] caseyweederman 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Like eating mom's spaghetti with a spork.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's a free ride, but you already paid?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

not for digital games.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Cons:

  • maybe multiplayer isn't very populated if you wait too long

  • ???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Remember when games used to, at least sometimes... do actual internal beta testing to iron out performance bugs and such?

Now we are all alpha and beta testers, all the time.

Sometimes even AAA and 'AAAA' games release, and then unrelease before the alpha or beta is even done!

Yeah, patient gaming for me, haven't preordered or gone into an early access game in almost a decade now...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it's best to wait. I'm not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they've patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If only buying games actually supported devs anymore. Devs seem to get fired for any reason nowadays.

Bad game? Fired. Good game? Also fired. Popular game that people loved? Believe it or not, also fired. Develop a game only for the company to change direction and the game gets cancelled? Absolutely fired.

You'd think these publishers would value talent as much as their intellectual property but they seem to not care anymore for either.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Plenty of singleplayer games are from indies, those more or less support the developer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure most pirates don't sit here and want a crack for a 10-20€ Indie Game. But a 80€ Game (sometimes even with additional microtransaktions like skins etc.) Yeah I see that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any indie devs out there using Denuvo?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just saying, indie devs just dont have the money and time to use denuvo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

And you don't need to wait for indie games, though you might need to be patient about early access quality. But, as long as the dev(s) stick with it, even that can be satisfying to see the game improve from a janky boilerplate mess to wherever it is really headed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I get where you're coming from and I agree the job security for Devs and the financing of games is fucked. It's still disingenuous to claim that pirating the game has the same impact as buying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not either, I get them on sale later, just pointing out why would they screw over a paying customer with DRM bullshit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Only the devs who don't use Denuvo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pirating is getting so hard for me that it’s becoming not an option. Comcast has started blocking vpn nodes for me, but only of I am torrenting. And if I turn off the vpn, DMCA notices out the ass. I’m kinda stuck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What VPN and where are you located?

Couple things you can do, try changing your router DNS to quad9 or open DNS, make sure you're not using Comcast default DNS servers.

Try a new VPN provider, I've been using Torguard for almost a decade, zero issues, there are discount codes where you can get it for $29/year.

I have a dedicated desktop for seeding, I upload about 1TB per day on soulseek/nicotine+ and torrents.

https://youtu.be/xAo61IaXun8

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you, you’re a god among men. I use a pihole for DNS, but I will give Torguard a try because I’ve been thinking of getting rid of private internet access since they went all corporate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Pihole is fine, just make sure it's not using the Comcast DNS settings. I have a pihole instance also that I use to block ads.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It's a beautiful cycle.

/me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of things in life are improved once you excise the FOMO mind cancer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's so many good games and so little time, I don't understand how anyone wouldn't have a big backlog anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

cause they only play slop with huge marketing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

They also typically go on really good sales right around the time denuvo gets removed.