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"I can tell you that the people that are doing it aren't the people who are coming here because they're looking for a sandwich because they're hungry," said Ravi Ramberran, "It's the people who are not afraid of consequences period."

In the wake of the increase in dine and dashers, Ramberran said his restaurant has ramped up how they deal with it.

"We blast them on Facebook, we hold them, we make them wait for the cops...We do what's in our power to do."

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[โ€“] Jesse 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

One solution would be to pay at the time that you order, but then I'd be horrified at the concept of being asked to tip BEFORE your meal, in which case tipping switches from being mild/borderline extortion to being full-on blatant extortion. So, credit card for deposit would be better, like someone else suggested.

Or, if the point of this isn't to ask for solutions but to complain about 'people getting worse'... There's always been shit-heads and there's always going to be shit-heads out there. Maybe the percentages are shifting, but if so it's likely the not-so-new problem of cities growing bigger and feeling less like a community, and if someone doesn't feel like they have any connection or responsibility to the people that live around them, then this and countless other crimes and social breakdown tend to result. Maybe the nature of the internet and media etc. is making that worse, but if so it's still only a different flavour to the old and ongoing task of maintaining social cohesion one generation to the next. I admit, some days I almost want to lose faith in that, but it's gonna take more than an increase in petty theft to do it today.

[โ€“] Powerpoint 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How about ban tipping and just increase wages+benefits? Such an easy solution you found.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're almost there. You're almost at the answer.

[โ€“] frostbiker 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Urgh... ehm... we should... we should tip cashiers and self-checkouts as well?

That's the answer, right?

[โ€“] ILikeBoobies 6 points 1 year ago

Just donโ€™t ask for tips, seems like you found a solution for 2 problems

[โ€“] Pyr_Pressure 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe do it like gas stations where you pre-auth $200 or $300 then at the end they just charge you for what you end up using.

I.e. pre-auth $200 and then at the end of your meal, get the bill for $100, put down a 15% tip, they only charge your card for $115 afterwards.

[โ€“] Showroom7561 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Paying before is a possible solition, but it's a double-edged sword for restaurants.

I would imagine that the sticker shock would lead to people spending less on their overpriced food and drinks, ignoring the outrageous tip on top of that.

I'd lose my appetite ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also how do you handle things that pop up mid meal? Like a second beer/cocktail with your meal.

I think a deposit when you sit down makes the most sense. If paying by card, then just keep their card on file for the duration of the meal, if cash, then do a small deposit per person - less than the cost of the meal, but enough to make dining and dashing really not worth the risk/effort.

Not exactly perfect, but itd work

[โ€“] Showroom7561 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'd probably do it like gas stations... put a $200+ hold on the card, then actually charge the amount you pumped.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fair point, makes cash customers trickier, but for better or worse, more and more people don't use cash anyways, so that might be a non issue