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@smorks is there a chance we defederated lemmy.world?
There is a sailing community I engage with that is straight Lemmy.ca to Lemmy.world. Seems I get some federation but not all, so probably not a defed issue.
Lemmy.world appears to be running out of date version of Lemmy (boo lemmy.world)
Our admin might just be too on top of things for them to keep up.
*edit: or maybe it is defed https://lemmy.ca/post/919062.
*edit 2: Seems to be, I just tested on this thread from a .world account.
*edit 3: not defed, just .world probably being hammered along with other Lemmy growing pains.
I doubt that it's defederated because of the bot count. I ran into the issue (Lemmy.ca <-> Lemmy.world) already well before the bot invasion
The list says non-comprehensive, but with an instance as large as lemmy.world, you'd expect it to be listed, if it would be defederated. Plus Lemmy.world is still listed on linked instances.
There must be a different reason for the poor synchronization between the two instances
Edit: See comment further down. Smorks is aware of the issue and will look into it.
yes, we are still federated with lemmy.world.
i haven't seen anything in the logs, but I haven't dug too deep yet. i'm going to guess it's likely an issue with .world themselves. there seems to be a few users reporting issues, i'm guessing because of their high activity/user count:
https://lemmy.world/post/646742
https://lemmy.world/post/574368
https://lemmy.world/post/406956
it could be a general lemmy federation issue too?
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3101
Thank you so much for looking into this! You must be swamped with all of us newbies here on lemmy.ca.
If it's a general Lemmy federation issue. Do you have any guess, if the issue can be resolved at some point? (I'm aware, it might not necessarily be at the top of anybody's priority list with all the influx happening right now.)
i think there might be a few reasons why this is happening.
from what I understand, all federation requests are stored in a queue, and if the server happens to restart with a bunch of stuff in the queue, then those federated comments/posts/whatever are basically lost. pretty sure they're working on saving the queue so that that doesn't happen anymore.
there's also another issue, linked from that issue i posted above, that has to do with HTTP signature expiration times. i'm just guessing what that means, maybe if it takes more than 10 seconds to federate then the content is rejected?
so it looks like they are actively working on some of these issues.
Lemmy isn't even at a point 2 minor version yet so it will be awhile before it is stable and these kind of kinks worked out, but this kind of thing is going to somewhat the norm I think, by design.
Beehaw defederated Lemmy.world, and they are both have large communities. Although we federate with them both, depending on who/where it was posted the source of truth may result in not always getting consistent updates from both.
I believe the reality in federated space is you will always want to have an account on all the more active instances, using one local as your primary and monitoring things you want to follow on multiple. Luckily the official app makes it pretty easy to do, and maybe there is another app, or one in the works, that will do a client side merge across accounts.
Yeah, same here. Just seemed to be worse since the recent block list and thought maybe related, but appears to be just timing.