this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2024
1124 points (98.4% liked)

Political Memes

8871 readers
1863 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

No AI generated content.Content posted must not be created by AI with the intent to mimic the style of existing images

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

That is because the jets and yachts are company provided and the company writes it off as an operational expense. You know, as schools should be doing with school supplies teachers need to do their job.

Companies also don't require their employees to bring their own desk and chair... I know.. do t give them any ideas.. and probably some scumbag employers did this anyway.

This is separate from the fact if companies should be allowed to expense luxury items... Like yachts and jets..

[–] phx 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Canada, a company-provided vehicle is a taxable benefit when used for personal purposes. This can include if you park the vehicle at home and drive to/from work if you have a fixed office location.

Of course, the rich work around this by making that yacht trip etc a "business expense" and entertaining similarly rich guests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Still fraud, just not investigated

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So many people think "tax deductible" literally means you subtract it from your taxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's still a hefty discount

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Tax creditable" just doesn't have the same ring.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Might as well be, if they use it for work it counts. My boss bought a luxury RV for our company, he's the only one whose ever used it but technically there is a contract if a customer wants to rent it. Not that anyone was ever instructed to actually shill it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's fraud, you can report it to the IRS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That means it's a business expense, not that you can literally deduct 100% of it from your taxes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Companies also don’t require their employees to bring their own desk and chair

Unless you work from home, then you are expected to have the space, supplies, desk, chair, electricity, internet connection...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Plenty of employers provide at least some of that and reimburse for the rest. That should be the norm.. and it is still way cheaper than a desk space in an office.

And for employees, the cost saving on the commute makes up for more than the costs of electricity and stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. The company should pay for everything you need to do your job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they should but that's not how it works now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is in a sane state like California.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Check with your boss/HR. My partner works for a University, and they have received an ergo mouse, chair, and motorized adjustable desk for their home office simply by requesting them. Most organizations have a budget for IT accomodations and they hardly ever use it.

Also, if you can get a Dr's note for it, most places will purchase just about any accomodations you need for work. Larger monitors, ergo keyboard, dictation software...etc...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They're not "allowed to" expense those things. At least, not in the way you mean. Whether or not regulators have an appetite to investigate is another matter.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In my opinion, companies shouldn't be allowed to expense anything. The entire concept is pointlessly complicated and only serves to favor businesses that can afford to hire teams of accountants. The law doesn't encourage any kind of value adding on the slightest, it's just a game to save money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are complicated parts of accounting, but basic expense tracking is simple and businesses would do it even if it didn't affect their tax treatment.

If businesses couldn't write off expenses, it would be nearly equivalent to treating the corporate income tax as a universal sales tax. This would be incredibly damaging to small businesses and benefit behemoth vertically integrated companies, which is probably the exact opposite of what you want.

If you get rid of expenses, you need to get rid of corporate income tax and either replace it with VAT or combine it with increases to personal income tax like taxing capital gains as ordinary income.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mmmm that's a great point about vertical integration, I forgot about that.

[–] vithigar 2 points 1 year ago

That would basically guarantee that no new business ever survives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Companies shouldn’t be paying taxes at all. Just tax the people who own the companies directly based on the value of their shares.