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[–] [email protected] 183 points 10 months ago (57 children)

Man if only it was actually like how cars are regulated.

Required training, tests, insurance needs and has to be safe for others.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (7 children)

And you can't take an F1 car out anywhere.except a track.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

If only cars were actually regulated like we pretend they are...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (13 children)

What an interesting concept. Insuring the gun owner could really have merit. Then you’d have a company who would be very heavily invested in the responsibility of the gun owner, as well as needing a record of firearms owned to be insured.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (17 children)

You'd also have pressure on firearms manufacturers and regulatory bodies because the insurance companies covering the owners would do everything in their power to shift blame away from their customers, so as to avoid paying out on the policies. Suddenly you have a lot of money behind preventing accidental discharge, etc

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Funny comparing guns to cars. I need a drivers license to operate a car, something I will be tested for and have to renew regularly. A car has a registration number that is registered to me and a license plate with the state that gets renewed regularly. Also insurance is required, the cost of which goes up if I'm irresponsible.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (8 children)

...killed 10 people on the interstate.

Regardless of the rest, this is like saying that guns would be confiscated because someone shot 10 people at a shooting range.

If it were a regular occurrence that people were driving cars through classrooms, like it is with shooting into them, then the conversation around regulating cars would look a lot more similar to the one about guns.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The biggest difference is you need to have a license for a car and it needs to be registered, and in most places you have to have insurance to cover any damage you may cause. None of this is true for gun ownership, despite a car being nearly required for life in the US and a gun being a toy for most people, or at best a tool that is used for one particular job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The biggest difference is you need to have a license for a car

I agree and made a similar comment on this post but you can buy a car without a license in every US state. It's the driving part that requires a license. It's a nitpick but still applies given the conversation around gun control is focused mostly on the purchase side of things.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I enjoy and own guns. Ive used them for hunting, I’ve used one in self defense (no shots fired). Sensible laws regarding guns are just fine by me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Yep, I own 4 pistols and 1 revolver, and I still think we need a lot more gun control.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

To drive that car, she had to take a class, get experience under an instructor/valid driver, take a paper test, take a practical test.

This is not the gotcha you think it is. As a gun owner, I'm for responsible gun control, and this meme is anti-gc.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

also there are different licenses for different classes of vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And driving licenses are far too easy to get as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just because jt was easy for you doesn't mean it was easy for everybody else.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Not trying to compare these two things, but as a German it always stroke me as odd that many Americans will go to any lengths in order to defend their right to bear arms, but they all totally accept the fact that there's not a single highway in the US without a speed limit.

In Germany, it seems to be the other way round. Noone really cares that guns are strictly regulated but most people will fiercely oppose the introduction of speed limits with the same level of fanaticism of American gun nuts.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

This argument is bad and you should feel bad

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Funny, the only politician I've ever heard actually talk about taking away/seizing guns was Donald Trump

They must all really hate him for that, right?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

But for real though, maybe we do also get rid of cars? Why not build more public transit and less drunk driving accidents? The only especially bad part of this is the police.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How does one drunk driver even kill 10 people before dying themselves?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Drive into a basketball court

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Funny enough most drunk drivers survive. Ragdolling instead of tensing up. The macabre of life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plowing into a crowd. I'm sure it's happened.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm up for banning all cars slowly.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

make up stories

It's an analogy, that's how they work.

And it's not a really flawed one. But the big difference is that Cars are tools, they have legitimate and important usecases outside killing people and they are much harder to kill people with since it's relatively easy to flee from a car, they tend to get stuck in tight spaces

Which imo makes cars okay to own.

But yes, cars are also super dangerous, look at the Christmas-market attacks over here in Europe. And nobody wants to ban cars.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I like the implication that guns are equal to cars in terms of necessity. Some people can't leave their homes without driving, and some people (cowards) can't leave their suburban house without their emotional support weapon.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

This is some peak dumb shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I agree that cars are over-dispensed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I wonder how they feel about sobriety checkpoints.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The 2nd amendment literally doesn’t provide them the right to a weapon.

If it did, particularly for the reason they say, literally killing a politician would be legal if you could prove “their tyranny”. That’s the biggest load of bullshit.

It’s a simple provision that provides the States with the right to arm their own militias.

So many chode Americans believe “theyre the miltia!!!”. The government also defines that, though, and it’s … not everyone. Its only males 18-45, and women in the Guard. That’s it. So the only people the 2nd amendment could even begin to logically and legally allow a weapon are healthy, able bodied males 18-45 and trained women. And they don’t really need to prove theyre able bodied, so every fat guy with a gun is breaking constitutional law

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