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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In case you missed the markings on it, it’s also free and runs on electricity, which in France is low carbon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how much of the length cutting was just from being able to remove the ICE and all its associated components.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Not a lot, the engine is under the passengers in pretty much every modern bus.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And it's a shuttle, not a line bus, tbf

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And the distinction is pointless. It's a bus. It is. It simply is a bus. Some kind of bus.

Bus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shuttles tend to be free of charge more often than buses, for various reasons. This shuttle being gratis does not imply that any other buses in the area are free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why should the name of the vehicle type depend on whether some governments have a tendency to make them free? It's still a bus. A small bus. A shuttle and a bus. Perchance a shuttle bus. Or just either. But definitely both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude, it's not a matter of vehicle type, even trains can be shuttles. It just means that its purpose is to bring people from one point to another without stops, usually from some transportation hub. It's a shuttle because IT'S WRITTEN ON ITS SIDE.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

And it's a bus.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The opposite is true for the US. Because of the abhorrently large firetrucks you can't have smaller roads.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll bet semi trailers contribute as well, it is rarely a single thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also because everything in the US is spread out except for urban areas, mass transit just won't work well for a large part of the population. Didn't help that what transit infrastructure existed came under assault by the oil/car companies of the time, so many places went full automobile.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Half of the US is a stripmall 20km away from a suburb on one end and corn on the other with a parking lot in the middle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i don’t think that’s really true… australia is hugely spread out and we have pretty great mass transit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you had a different history of development then, unlike what I mentioned in the second part. Lots of our 19th-20th century urban areas had trolleys and such, which "mysterious" disappeared when the car came along. Even now in the past decades the public has overwhelming wanted development of things like high speed rail, and yet somehow even mandates voted for on ballots are refused for "reasons".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

i think it’s more straight forward than that tbh… rail and infrastructure is expensive and takes more than 3y to build so it costs you and won’t gain you anything at the next election… in fact, the opposition party will probably get in and fuck with it, make it a total failure and then use it as a “so expensive and really bad” excuse to then attack you at the election after as well!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I can understand that, and it's one of the many drawbacks of party systems. It's also exactly what Republicans have done for decades for anything in government.

Ina world where corporations only care about the next quarter, and politicians begin their term by starting the next campaign, how can we get long range plans completed? We've done many huge projects over many years in the past, but in today's instant gratification that seems impossible. Anything worth doing is going to cost a lot up front, it's called an investment in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

That’s a super cute little bus.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No medieval city claims that. Hell, they are more walkable and transit oriented than more modern cities that were designed for cars. Stop with the straw men.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No medieval city claims that.

Its a common enough argument in the UK. I've even seen a few instances in which bus stops have been taken down because people were complaining about the traffic they created (small street with no passing lane, so when the bus stops, the dozen cars behind it are bottled up).

None of the busybodies trying to sabotage the local transit system seems to want to recognize the twelve cars behind the bus as the problem, of course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

None of the busybodies trying to sabotage the local transit system seems to want to recognize the twelve cars behind the bus as the problem, of course.

I feel like I perhaps know who may be driving those cars

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

What are you talking about, even York has buses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Saying they don’t like the location of a bus stop is not saying you can’t have busses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's also not true. Don't know any towns in the UK that don't have buses and use small streets as an excuse.

Most of the towns in the UK that don't have buses use lack of funding from central government as an excuse, which is a pretty good excuse.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

It's not the medieval cities that fight tooth and nail to prevent public transit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Here in my town, they simply have a refurbished van with like 12 seats hauling people around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I've seen those. In the suburbs here they often have call-ahead pickup to specific locations, like the only remaining mall or the library.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If you don't have room for busses now, when will you have room for all the parking required for everyone to drive a car around all the time?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Bluebus 22: 5,460 m (17.9 ft)

Dodge Ram: 6,340 m (20.8 ft)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

"Hold my mustard" made me smile :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Aix-en-Provence: Hold my rosé

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They have the same problem in Siena, Italy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Fuck cars ... but not this car."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Public transportation is cool, giant SUVs are not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Cute little bus just gonna keep transporting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Damn, if only we had more than two options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How many people can sit in that little thing?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

My hometown has very similar ones and they can hold up to 25 people adding up seating and standing space, don't underestimate them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They don't need to sit that many. It's not an interstate route that runs thrice a day and carries 300 people in each run. For it to be an alternative to cars you need to have lots of route and they need to be quite frequent - which means less people in each minibus.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I feel like the top statement is a -

Said no-one ever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

chokes en Francais

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

What is this? A bus for ants?

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