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A survey in the Netherlands revealed that 31% of Tesla owners are considering selling their cars due to Elon Musk’s controversial actions, including his involvement in politics and handling of misinformation on X (formerly Twitter).

About 40% feel embarrassed to own a Tesla, though 51% say Musk’s behavior doesn’t affect their view of the car.

Musk’s leadership of X has also driven users away, with 46% leaving or considering leaving the platform.

Parallel criticism of Mark Zuckerberg for removing fact-checking has fueled similar debates over tech leadership and misinformation.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I would sell my car the moment I get a proper offer. But no one wants to buy a Tesla here anymore.

So, keep driving the Model Y. But there is zero chance that we will ever buy a Tesla again. At least as long as Musk is able to profit from it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My wife and I were planning on buying a Tesla some day. She has wanted one since before we knew the name musk. But when we had to replace her Toyota Highlander after someone hit our daughter in it, we passed over all of the teslas and went with another Highlander.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Good call going with another Highlander. Musk's stupid, shitty antics have resulted in your getting a superior car.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Highlanders are awesome! It's basically a rav4 with a camry drivetrain. I want one!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

If we did not have 3 dogs over 65lbs we probably would have done a RAV4. But having the 3rd row seating is nice. Gas mileage could be better.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm there with you. We bought the first Model S Refresh. We knew he was a piece of shit then, but the same could be said of any automotive CEO. Then he rapidly got worse and now it's my shame mobile. I actually love the car, but I feel so fucking gross driving it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

The EV conversion guys like me are all rubbing our hands together to get our hands on cheap donor teslas to stick in much cooler old cars.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I, personally, will never buy a Tesla. I would consider buying an EV, but never a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

I promise to never fly spacex.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I'm kind of surprised more people aren't unhappy with their Tesla's because of the poor build quality. I know they go through patches where the build quality improves and is okay. But there have been so many recalls and problems in general with Teslas. Even aside from Musk being a toxic, loud piece of shit, his company's cars are overall just not worth the trouble. And that's not even bringing up the fact that the cyber truck looks like it was designed by a 6 year old on a 386 PC's CAD program.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same. Historically they're not even good EVs.

It sounds like there's even alternatives to Starlink if you can deal with low bandwidth.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I've been perfectly happy with my Tesla, if you just look at the car. When i first got it for years ago, it was a real source of joy to me. Now all the joy has been sucked out of it by Musk's assholery. I want to get rid of it sooner rather than later. Right now there isn't really anything in the market that could replace it, but as soon as there is, I'll jump.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Just don't buy another one. You're just funding fascism at that point.

Why isn't there anything else on the market to replace it? Price?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

This is my plan. I figure I have at least 5 more good years with my Tesla. By then there will be plenty of alternate EV options available. I’ll definitely be one and done with Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a combination of price, not being forced to purchase through a dealership, and access to the vastly superior supercharger network.

That dynamic should begin to shift in a few years, with the dealership model being the most sticky. Hopefully the used market will come along.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The not buying through dealership sounds like a "nice to have" thing.

Dont most of the new EVs have access to the supercharger network at this point?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Dont most of the new EVs have access to the supercharger network at this point?

In the last several months, yes. However, that doesn’t mean the cables at the charging stations are long enough to accommodate non-Teslas. So you wind up with someone blocking 2-4 stalls with 1 car to try and charge.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

so true. I too long for an alternative car that features a fart button and a voice changing megaphone and who the fuck knows what else.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

The man’s just done a Nazi salute. Even if you can’t afford to go through the new car process, can you afford not to?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (9 children)

At the end of the day, they are terrible cars. Teslas have the highest rate of of malfunction and low mileage service of any manufacturer in the US by far.

They are beating Ford at their own game!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Gotta start selling "Bought this before it was fascism"-stickers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The enlightened never bought one after test driving and hearing rattles in a car with 20 miles.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of us were smart enough to not be making enough to make such a stupid decision.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The proper way to live when it comes to cars

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The build quality is absolute dogshit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is this the new "maga supporters are thinking of not supporting trump" headline for the next ten years?

Sell it or don't sell it. Who cares? 🥱

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

buying a tesla in the last couple years is like automotive market darwinism

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bought mine in 2021. I knew the man was an idiot then, wasn't really expecting the whole fascist playbook at the time. Anyway, want a Tesla?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

For free? No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't know what the CEO of most companies I buy from is like. I don't know how many of them were friends with Epstein or deny the Holocaust or want slavery to be legal, and I fear if I did know, it would be very difficult to maintain all the boycotts. That and Teslas have some wicked acceleration so I don't blame people for having them. Unless it's a cybertruck, those things are ugly af

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Teslas also have some horrific privacy/ownership issues, sub-par build quality, and have regularly locked people inside during fires. They also have shitty door handles that ice over in winter, use software updates as a crutch, and Elon Musk makes other vehicle manufacturer CEOs look like saints.

Also, you don’t need to buy from all of them. Subaru is a real company that doesn’t do horrific things and actually has proven that they’re honest when they say that infinite growth is not something they chase.

If the reason you’re afraid to know is because you want to buy stuff and feel good then you have a bigger problem. It’s ok not to know but to essentially refuse to know?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, I've driven probably the majority of EVs on the market, and it's hard to match how enjoyable it is to drive a Tesla. It's like driving a spaceship. I probably would have leased one just a couple years ago, but my next car will almost certainly be a Polestar instead.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds like an influx of cheap second hand BEVs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

From my personal observations and conversations with people in the Netherlands this seems about right, and I'd say the 51% are mostly going to be more in the "don't care" camp, with a tiny portion maybe having a positive view of Elon/maga, we do have right wingers here too even if they're different.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

This might require an update

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Only 3 in 10. Give it another year and that number will be up

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You sure about that? Look who's being inaugurated tomorrow. I have zero faith in the American people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This survey was conducted in the Netherlands, but yes, faith in Americans in the toilet.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Assuming that they can sell their cars, doesn't that mean that there is an equal amount of buyers considering buying a Tesla?

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