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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago

They'll sing praises of the "free market" all day, until it stops going their way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago
> be european
> deepseek gets banned
> "hardfork" it to a european hosted gitlab instance
> see openai and xai tears flowing again
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

Guess you'll have to jail all the chuds and libs who typed "Tienanmen Square Massacre" so they could post the screenshot on Reddit as some kind of gotcha on China.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Ima download it even harder now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

Lmao.

The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Cool! Do a flip next.

Might as well go all the way if you're doing stunts.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So we've gone from banning books to banning apps.

could face up to 20 years in jail, a million dollar fine, or both.

So I'd get less for stabbing someone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

And you wouldn't believe how less it gave you for stealing millions from a pension fund.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Yeah that TikTok ban is paying off already! We really saved the children this time!!! WAhooo!!!! \s \s \s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

You're supposed to fine companies, not jail people wtf

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago

oh, these third world dictatorships with no consideration for individual freedoms and human rights...

no, wait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This almost certainly will go nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Hawley introduced the legislation, titled the Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act, on Wednesday of last year.

For people who see this, I think they meant "last month."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

A dying empire doing everything it can to delay the inevitable. We really are watching the beginning of the end of the US hegemony aren't we?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Prof Richard Wolff has a great analysis of things: https://youtu.be/9u4A0D_Wc9c

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

As usual. Love that guy.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

US doing exactly what they accuse Communist China of doing exhibit 420

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 16 hours ago

In the United States you get sent to prison if you use the wrong slop machine

[–] [email protected] 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who doesn't know how to (safely!) pirate books, articles, films, games and software, please read, use and share the resources over at [email protected]

This skill is increasingly useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Genuinely great comm and resource.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Didn't I just read an article about Apple wanting to use it. It's open source it can be forked and be American tomorrow. No matter how much Openai crys. This just shows the true lack of any knowledge on the subject. I'm not a fan of the Chinese government as much of the next guy. But the information is out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Honest Questions Can a model be open source? Dont we need the data it was trained on to truly be able to reproduce, understand and modify it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

No a model is a model now if you are talking a chat bot or ai app yeah you need the data and that data changes all the time but if I have the model I can supply my own and get simalr results to their model if the data I need is the same. The code is right here https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3?tab=readme-ov-file I can get the models from https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base and train them further and redistub that model legally. Per

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Perplexity already runs a US copy of it.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 21 hours ago (17 children)

As well as banning research. Absurd overreach of government and it will accomplish the opposite of what it wants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It’s definitely not because it’s a competitor to Grok (x.ai) who just spend $6 billon on GPUs or anything

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 48 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

"American Liberty", ladies and gentleman.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Good thing I've just accepted a faculty position outside the US.

I'll get to move to a country that doesn't persecute academics and I think I'm just beating the crowds on the way out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Where are you going? I'm currently on last yr of PhD and thinking of leaving, but I don't know if I should abandon the PhD to leave or not. I'd like to finish it, at least do it remotely, but chances of finding work immediately after PhD are slim.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

The position is in Germany. It might be out of the frying pan and into the fire given Germany's right wing rise, but that's happening across the western nations and we're all in trouble.

I don't have a ton of advice for you. I defended over 10 years ago, so I'm moving straight into a tenured/permanent position as senior faculty. For an ABD, I'm not sure what the landscape looks like these days.

If you want to make the move, start talking to people. Reach out to people publishing in your field and talk shop. Collaborate with them, talk about the future, and be willing to take a postdoc (or german system W1) position. It's more ramen and a small bedroom, but it's one where there's healthcare and civil rights.

Academia (and most professions) are all about networks. Talk with people, collaborate, and grow that network. Something will come along.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Thank you. I have a family to worry about so can't survive on ramen alone... But I'll look for other countries postdoc and such. I'm a bit scared of moving somewhere I don't know the local language now because of how things are going in the US, if something like this happens and I can't understand their language I'd not even know the dangers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

Nice to see the brain drain of the US in action. I'm glad I don't have to see it's downfall firsthand.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

another great day of not being an american

[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The whole globe is sliding right. It's not a great day for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Sliding right and left. It's becoming more polarized as Empire decays.

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