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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And yet again from Corporate America: "Rules for thee but not for me!"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Corporate America maybe. Meta is an international company and there are also a lot of international publishing companies.

I could definitely see this leading to a lawsuit in other parts of the world. This is unquestionably a violation of the Berne Convention.

https://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The exception is when corporations mess with other corporations have the means to sue them into the ground.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I really hope the publishers sue for all the damages they can. Unlike average people, Meta has lots of money to lose, and it couldn't happen to a worse company.

[–] adarza 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

81.7 terabytes of books
('more than', but we'll use this figure)

➗ divided by ➗

1 mebibyte per work
(the samples of digital novels i used here to estimate size per work were around 500kb each; i took that and doubled it)

✖️ multiplied by ✖️

$250,000 maximum fine (per infringement)

🟰 equals 🟰

$19.48 trillion maximum fine.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Corporate death penalty pls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_dissolution They stepped on the toes of several companies with lots of lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I'd be fine with meta having to pay that 👍

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A fine like that will last about as long as it takes for ~~Donvict~~ FElon to sign an order making training AI fall under "fair use," unfortunately.

Or, just as likely, the individuals will be the ones found responsible rather than the corporation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

If they get sued and it gets to the discovery phase, they might have to actually provide all training data used, and I'm almost certain there is a lot more stolen content in there. But sadly, it will probably not come to that, because they have money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's a win-win either way.

Although I'm almost rooting for Meta just so that copyright is weakened at all. The damage copyright has done to culture and science might even exceed Meta's damage to society.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any of those books published by Nintendo, per chance?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Nintendo is going to have to send out more than just Luigi. There's a lot of plumbing to be done!

[–] wise_pancake 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can I do this on my own computer? I’m training an AI I swear.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Me too but with movies and TV shows

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Me three, but with, uh .... Porn

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Hmm, that LLM sounds like a sound investment!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I would love to see Meta sued by anyone for this. They'd win, but that could theoretically could be used as precedence for individuals.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I really don't understand how LLM models aren't considered derivative works of the material they were created from under copyright law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I love that they used a stock photo of someone seeing goatse for the first time as the article pic 😄