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likely in response to my comments on the beehaw post, which i linked to (hopefully im doing this right?). apparently, calling people you dont know for the first time "they/them" before being told their pronouns is "misgendering". absurd. this kind of attitude threatens the larger LGBTQ community and is partially why cishets hate us after we won so much progress back in the 00s and 10s.

im a queer person. im neurodivergent. this shit is so goddamn fucking annoying, especially as an older queer who got physically assaulted on a near daily basis for being queer in the 90s. the kids today get their panties in a twist over being supposedly "misgendered" by someone calling them gender neutral pronouns before being corrected. narcissistic victimhood bullshit.

anyways, now banned from one of my favorite instances. meanwhile in the US theyre planning on hunting us. but yeah, lets ban fellow queers over their view that people who get mad about being "misgendered" when they arent (cis people are also referred to as "they/them" before further context in a conversation with a stranger) are just attention seeking brats that threaten the larger movement. its so obvious to me that the brats who find reason to be offended over innocent pronoun use never faced real adversity, like getting repeatedly physically beaten.

edit - the best part of all of this is i faced no moderation from beehaw and all of my comments are +1 or higher. power tripping oversensitive neurodivergent hating bastard of a mod over at blahaj IMO.

edit 2 - did this wrong. heres a link to the post i think got me banned from blahaj and a screenshot about it https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37659465

Edit 3 - apparently I did nothing wrong until I made my thoughts known about how the pronoun police fucked over the larger LGBTQ community as our rights are backsliding in America. Yall are gonna whine about being misgendered to the concentration camp guards at the rate we’re going. God forbid I be angry that while queers were busy fighting over pronouns our adversaries stuffed the courts, stuffed the school boards, couped the government, and are installing a fascist dictatorship. When I say that these fucking toddlers are going to learn what real oppression tastes like, that’s what I mean. It’s not that I want us to be hurt or oppressed (as the dog piling idiots have interpreted), it’s that the younger generation is weak as hell and lost the fucking plot in the fight for our rights. I grew up getting beaten in the streets for being queer only for these kids to claim their pronouns not being mind-read is oppression!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

OP has revealed their true colours in their comments in the threads here. Fucking LGB alliance bullshit. If you wanna divide the queer community like this you are absolutely gatekeeping at best and straight up transphobic in all likelihood. I on the other hand will continue to love and support every single facet of the 2SLGBTQIA+ spectrum without calling something I don't experience or understand "attention seeking brats".

"Never faced real adversity" Jesus Christ fuck you. If being denied the opportunity to marry officially is adversity then being denied your EXISTENCE officially is also fucking adversity. This is textbook gate keeping and ladder pulling. You fought for gay/lesbian/bisexual rights and you got somewhere with it and now that transgender and genderqueer people who don't have their rights are asking for support you call them whiny piss babies.

I'm trying my absolute best to bee nice as per my instance, but no. From the bottom of my autistic, transgender, lesbian heart - fuck you.

And here's the kicker. I could not be more opposed to you right now. BUT I will still fight for you and accept you as part of the queer community.

Stop trying to hide behind your queerness or neurodivergence and take ownership of your bigotry and try to address it.

Do not bother replying to me, OP, ~~I will not read it.~~ But I hope you grow.

YDI

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

LOL YOU THINK THIS IS ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE?

No you dumb fuck, I used to be BEAT IN THE FUCKING STREET FOR 15 FUCKING YEARS OF MY LIFE.

Hearing whiny fucks bitch and moan about how oppressed they are because somebody called them a they/them instead of he/him or she/her is fucking INFURIATING.

And y’all don’t want to admit that the pronoun bullshit is why we’ve lost so much of what we gained. Y’all don’t want to admit that being whiny fucks made y’all lose the plot.

So now we’re all at risk, from the bottom of my autistic lesbian heart, fuck all the people who got hung up on pronouns instead of fighting the real fucking fights. Pronouns in your bio and rainbows in the street and corporate rainbow washing didn’t do fucking shit for any of us but the kids bought it hook line and sinker.

While queers were whining about their pronouns the federalist society took over our courts. While queers were whining about their pronouns our country got couped. Queers are gonna be whining about their pronouns all the way to the concentration camp guards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

God you're insufferable. Fine I'll bite.

I used gay marriage as a way to help you see similarities.

Answer me one question, real quick: do you think transgender and genderqueer people are oppressed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

YES! But not because somebody accidentally called them they!

Fucking HELL the dog piling omg my feelings are hurt queers are insufferable

I don’t give a fuck about gay marriage I give a fuck about my physical safety in the streets my generation fought long and hard for only for the pronoun police generation to piss away

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Cool at least you understand that we're oppressed.

You act like all we suffer is pronouns and other stuff you consider inconsequential. We're being beaten and bullied at school, we're being murdered, we're having entire government campaigns created to eradicate us. You'd think that under all that oppression, we could at least expect a member of our queer community to not call us piss babies for wanting our pronouns respected.

You should give a fuck about gay marriage and you should give a fuck about the erasure of the existence of transgender people. You should also give a fuck about any of us being beaten or abused or denied the life saving healthcare we require. You don't need to draw a line in the sand conveniently at issues that don't affect you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I AM queer. Gender nonconforming. I’ve faced trans related violence just by being perceived as trans as an adult.

The majority of the online discourse is a bunch of queer children whining about their pronouns. “You’re misgendering someone if you call them they/them! It erases their gender!” No the fuck it does not. I’d like to reiterate I got banned for arguing that. not for disrespecting someone’s established pronouns, but for arguing about how fucking ridiculous this splitting hairs is when we have much bigger fights to fight right now.

And yeah, this shit is triggering to me because I’ve been beat up within inches of my life and we’re fighting about fucking pronouns????while they’re building concentration camps for us????? (referring to Guantanamo, a legal black hole, which for now will be used for immigrants but we all know it’s not stopping there and the immigrants don’t deserve that treatment either)

I believe we should call people what they want to be called while at the same time not having a fucking shit fit and banning people over using fucking English as intended. Apparently based on the dog piling of whiny queer comments it’s like I called for everyone to be hung. Fucking UNREAL.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

yeah I blocked that entire instance for being full of those sorts of morons, and I'm gay. I don't have the time or patience for that.

I just wish instance blocks extended to users, would make getting rid of entire swathes of annoying dipshits so much easier. Imagine being able to mass-block every user from lemmygrad.

A man can dream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

So did I. It reminds me of how users in incel reddits or FDS behave... Transcel (dear God please don't ever let that become a thing).

According to those idiots, if you differ from them in any way shape or form, you absolutely cannot be an lgbtqtia+ ally and are actually a transphobe.

Morons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

Find an instance that blocks grad. Mine does.

There's a public /instances endpoint exposed on all servers by default - check the blocked tab.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Even if the mod were wrong on this particular action, your insults to queer people throughout these comments have shown that they are absolutely better off without you in their community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Your grammar in the first sentence is a bit odd.

I would say "even if the mod was wrong" or in the subjunctive mood "even were the mod wrong" but subjunctive suggests you think they weren't wrong and are presenting a counterfactual. Did you start with plural "mods"? That would use were rather was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

He might just not be a native speaker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Were they ESL (English as a second language) it would also be useful to them to know their word choice was wrong, or if they were going for the subjunctive mood their word order was wrong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out subjunctive just covers a lot more ground than just counterfactuals. Wiki links in my other comment to some more info if you're interested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

So you were correct? I've never heard of this term before, although I suppose I have used it a couple of times in the past

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting! You pointed me towards some new refinement of my linguistic knowledge. Subjunctive casts a wide net and covers a whole bunch of attitudes/opinions and can be used for hypotheticals, counterfactuals, and several other things. Check out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrealis_mood

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Yep subjunctive is pretty versatile. In the context it would come off as counterfactual more than anything else to me

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago (18 children)

I'm gonna ignore all of this and talk to you directly as an autistic to an autistic. There are so many times I asked a friend of mine "Hey, I forgot mutual friend X's gender, what were their pronouns again" but what they heard was "Oh no the trans-genders and the pronouns are so confusing, they should stick with what on their birth certificate" and then I wake up the next day with no friends because that friend told all their friends I was being a transphobe.

Now, let's think about this from their perspective. If you saw a friend of yours being a bigot to another one of your friends, would you still hang out with them? I wouldn't. If I heard one of my friends was homophobic or transphobic or racist or any other kind of bigot, I would instantly block and shun them. I do not want bigots of any kind around me or my friends. There is a reason that cults practice shunning, and that is because it fucking works.

Continuing this, lets say our hypothetical ex-friend had been accused of being transphobic to one of your trans friends. What would they need to do to be either forgiven or absolved of guilt? Even if they were in fact transphobic, they can admit they are wrong. And if the accusation was wrong, what proof would you need? What sort of behavior would you need to see from them to forgive them?

I am positive that you as an elder queer have had many, many, many experiences where someone you thought you could trust turned out to be a homophobe. It really hurts. After a while, you start only seeing the worst in people.

As an autistic, it was really rough learning what would come across as a microaggression. Can't ask to be reminded of the pronouns, because it might be interpreted as passive-aggressive transphobic whinging about pronouns. When I do fuck up, I can't give the big apology that I think misgendering someone deserves because my autistic RBF will make it come across as sarcastic. You just have to quickly correct yourself and move on without drawing attention to it. It feels like blowing a red light and hitting someone because I was just plopped behind the wheel of a car without being taught how to drive.

Your tantrum here was very cathartic for me, because it really is fucking terrible trying navigate a world full of traumatized people. I don't like accidentally triggering people. I want people to feel safe around me! But if I had thought I'd seen a person doing a microaggression, and then I saw them throwing a tantrum about how them getting shunned was because everyone else is a pee pee piss piss boy and this is why the cishets hate us, I would be inclined to think they were at least regressive, if not one of the republican gays who think that we need to chop off everything past the B in LGBTQ+.

Just to be clear, I don't think you're transphobic. I have experienced the same sort of things as you. It's rough restraining myself from flailing around in response to being accused of stuff. It is humiliating to prostrate myself and beg forgiveness of things I know I did not do. But we live in a fucking society full of bigots and people traumatized by those fucking bigots, and these are the rituals that keep our corner of society even a little bit sane.

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