God, never been more ashamed to be an American than now.
But then I remember there's always tomorrow.
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Fuck this headline and all reporting that shelters trump from responsibility for his constant failures. It didn't turn to chaos, trump and vance shit all over it because they're weak, stupid cowards pretending to be what they think an alpha is.
Can someone please tell me this isn't real life?
We could, but we'd be lying
The footage of this meeting is truly remarkable and worth watching.
I think it's important to watch uncut unedited footage of meetings like this from time to time, to see the behaviour of leaders first hand. Otherwise it is too easy to just get swept up in the narrative of whatever social bubble you interact with.
In this meeting Trump demonstrates a total disinterest in any past events or context for current decisions; but he becomes quite animated and angry at the end of the video. Apparently he felt criticised and wanted to hit back. But he didn't seem to be paying much attention at all to what was being said.
Zelenskyy is calm throughout, but has clear frustration as Vance and Trump speak over the top of him. Trump accuses Zelenskyy of total disrespect, and says he is 'gambling with World War III'.
Really, it is worth watching. See how leaders of the USA behave.
It's literally a national embarrassment caused solely by Trump because his fee-fees were hurt.
In the past week, we've seen Trump sitting in the oval office and making a national embarrassment of himself in front of THREE separate world leaders: France, the UK, and now Ukraine. Three. In one week.
When you view all of his behavior over the last month and his first term with the context that he’s been a Russian asset the entire time, it all makes sense. It’s not embarrassing, it’s deliberate.
The "you don't didn't say thank you part" was so cringe.
It's cringe every time he says it.
And it's a huge tell. People know that if they come in and basically tell Trump what a big manly man he is, Trump will just give them everything they want anyway. It's not even a secret. World leaders have gone into press conferences basically saying as much.
I'd love to play poker with the man. I swear you could just keep dealing me a 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering, and I'd still be able to take the guy's house in about an hour. And I'd play with my hand face up.
Reminded me of an abusive parent.
'After everything I've done for you!'
Trump must have been convinced that Zelensky owed him so much and was so desperate that he could say and make him do whatever he wanted.
But no you orange asswipe, Zelensky is a man (by the most complementary definition).
Trump got showed up as a bullying whiner - a shrew who tries to berate people into giving him respect that he hasn't earned and doesn't deserve.
Edit: Adding this to help Ukraine >>
If, like me, anyone wants to show their feelings this is a great time to donate to Zelensky's fund to help Ukraine.
I hope it blows up and next time he's at the white house Zelensky can use his time in front of the media to thank us for donating huge amounts... biggest donations ever seen... Lol
Where can you watch the unedited video?
Edit: Seems like this is it. https://youtu.be/ayBRXIN9Kro
Double edit: It's obvious that Couch Fucker Vance was told to tank this. He went as combative as possible.
And Zelensky called him out on it. He literally told Vance that he's never been to Ukraine, and Vance literally responded with the political equivalent of "I'm not a real army general, but I saw one on TV once." . Like holy shit, you watched some news reports and you think that gives you the right to tell a leader of another country how to fight a war when you don't even have the fucking balls to stand up to your own boss, who's long since shown to be a fucking cuck himself?
Fuck JD Vance. Him, Trump, and Musk. I hope they all fucking choke on each other's toes.
And for the record, I'm not saying Zelensky is perfect, but right now I'd consider him the greatest wartime leader since Churchill. 3 years in, and he's at least holding a stalemate against an enemy that on paper should have been able to roll over him in 3 days. There any way we could send Trump over there and have Zelensky run here? I'd take him gladly over anybody in our government right now.
Vance needs a fucking good slap, how Zelenskyy didn't get up and lay one on him is remarkable
Musk, Vance, and Trump were in the same room??? How did we fuck this up?
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This is a national embarrassment.
This is literally doing permanent damage to America's reputation. We can't even say "We didn't know" because we saw what Trump did during his first term, what he promised on the campaign trail, all the illegal and corrupt activity he's involved in, and we re-elected him anyway. We knew, we re-elected him, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do. That is going to be an awfully steep hill to climb for the next President who's going to be tasked with repairing the damage Trump caused.
The meeting started out with Musk -- who has absolutely no business even being involved in our government -- openly mocking Zelinsky's attire like he's a high school bully picking on the poor kid in the neighborhood. This is what we are projecting to the world.
I would also like to point out that while companies such as AP and Reuters have been banned from the White House, Russian state media was allowed in.
This couldn't have been a bigger win for Putin if this meeting was followed up by a shot of Trump sucking on his toes.
So much embarrassment, so much national and global damage, so much damage to America's reputation. All in one meeting. Decades of work, pissed away by two nepo babies and their fragile egos.
Why would/should anyone in the international community trust the US after this?
US diplomacy can turn on a dime depending on who is elected now. The US cannot be trusted beyond the term length of the current president or even current congress.
The rest of the international community is going to unite and isolate the US. Its not ever going to be good again
You're not wrong. I'd never trust the US again unless it became socialist, fixed all the problems within and without, eg national health service, eradicate homelessness and drug addiction, get rid of Guantanamo bay, make reparations to Africa etc.
It’s absolutely fucking insane and entirely mortifying to rational citizens.
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zelensky knocked trumps dick in the dirt to his face inside the oval office, i thought it was awesome, so few times to world leaders get a chance to say precisely what they mean to another stronger country who is hurting them. our boy did just that. never seen anything like it before.
Trump is an absolute cunt.
Please do not be so insulting to cunts. Cunts are warm, feel good, and serve a purpose.
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No puppet you're the puppet
General Bone Spurs and Pvt Pyle gang up on an actual hero. Just when you wake up and think how things can get any worse, something like this comes along.
The world is watching, and I hate to say it, but I'd love it if they banded together and called us out, or cut us off. With as thin skinned as this administration is, they'd lose it. They like to puff out their chest and talk a big game, but I bet when it came to back things up, they'd fold so easily. Sad part is, they'd probably just redirect the blame.
We can't just depend on everyone else though. Something has to happen here. Some sense has to be beaten into us somehow.
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