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‘Dummies for Putin’: Democrats defend Zelenskyy after ‘shameful’ Trump meeting
(www.theguardian.com)
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As if that’s not exactly how they planned it to go: look like they are willing to sign a deal, make it blow up with outrageous last minute amendments, and then pretend Zelenskyy is uncooperative.
Straight out of Putins playbook. It’s obvious he’s calling the shots in DC for the next 4 years.
for the next 4 years.
If we're lucky.
Trump is Putin’s bitch.
Imagine Roosevelt or Churchill accusing Poland of starting the WWII for defending itself from Nazi German.
Trump is a russian assent "just wants peace"
Edit; wrong comment to reply to sorry.
Did they do it before or after they received the polls?
Not just shameful. Outright disgusting and imbecilic.
Treasonous?
The only way Trump could be more treasonous at this point is if somebody could prove that he was taking cash from Putin to fuck over Ukraine.
I hope somebody steps in in 25th amendments this guy‘s ass …
The Kremlin dictates U.S. policy.
Just when you thought you couldn't get any more embarrassed being an American.
This is a great window into how Trump, Vance and MAGA do business.
Bully. Yell. Lie. Threaten.
The idea that Trump is a Russian agent, or that Putin has kompromat on him and so he's dancing to Putin's strings is just ridiculous. It's not impossible, but it's so incredibly unlikely.
Having said that, this is exactly how Putin would want Trump to act if he were a Russian agent. It's also hard to believe that any US president would be this pro-Russia if the Russians didn't have blackmail material on him.
If Trump pushed any harder for pro-Russian / anti-American policies there's a chance the GOP might actually grow a spine and stop him. He has a slim majority in the senate, and he's already doing things that are causing GOP senators to vote against him. If he were a Russian agent his handlers wouldn't want him to lose control over the GOP, because then he'd no longer be useful to them.
So, here we are in a situation where either the US president is a Russian asset, or he's not but might as well be.
All the spy thrillers of the cold war prepared me for a world where politicians were brainwashed and blackmailed. What they didn't prepare me for was a world where these politicians were enthusiastically supported by their parties despite there clearly being something wrong with their decisions.
Why is it unlikely that he’s a Russian agent?
This started in the 90s when Trump lost all of his inherited money, had half a billion dollars in debt and stayed afloat with Russian money.
Russia has, demonstrably, influenced the 2016 elections in his favor. If he wasn’t indebted until 2016, he sure was after.
His „business“ ties to Russia are so numerous, there’s a separate Wikipedia page just on that topic.
I agree. Trump is stupid and easily manipulated. He doesn’t need to be compromised in the way people think. He’s a rich kid with a chip on his shoulder trying to impress Daddy types while stuck in the mindset he’s the most (insert some positive trumpism here) - aka Narcissist.
Very easily manipulated when you know what makes him tick.
There’s a line from the Lioness tv series (S01E06) that rings so true about Trump (but also many modern presidents):
Do you know who's in this meeting?
Don't you?
I knew who was in the debrief was at Langley.
Well, it won't be the President.
Wouldn't be the President anyway. You don't plan bus routes with the bus driver. You just tell him where to drive.
Great point about manipulation. Vance triggered him, and while narcissistic and idiotic, Trump was still normal Trump before that. After the whole "thank you" bit, he went off and all he wanted was for Zelenskyy to take his beating and kiss the ring.