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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lol imagine being a Russian and seeing the "Evil West" siding with your leader. Must be a confusing time... 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The restraint on Zelenskyy to not call him Krasnov to his face.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You mean the only adult in the room?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

(Should be obv, but this excludes Zelenskyy)

Edit: wtf why is it so hard to insert gifs

[–] [email protected] 187 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I checked a few parts for a few minutes. It was too painful to watch.

Troomp and JD couch showed the worst traits leaders could have. The obvious ones are the American superiority complexes and the toxic need to escalate and talk down upon others.

In all of the bits I saw when skipping trough it, Zelenksy deescalated the situation multiple times while Trump and especially Vance escalated and started talking like some pretentious teenager bullies that gotten themselves a country.

Fuck the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I know the main thing here is Vance and Trump backstabbing and bullying Zelenskyy, but I just want to point out that Trump repeatedly talked about "raw earth" instead of "rare earths". We're truly fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago

Trump is such a piece of shit, zelensky showed so much restraint. I think I would have slapped that traitor into the next dimension

[–] [email protected] 272 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

fuck trump fuck vance fuck musk fuck putin

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[–] [email protected] 180 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

As usual, Trump is projecting. Someone is "gambling with WWIII," but it sure ain't Zelenskyy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago

Trump wants zelenaky to take peace at any cost.... Zelenaky won't take that offer and wants assurances. Trump insults him as a war monger who wants ww3??

God what an example of political double speak. Trump is a lying idiot and he's the one gambling with ww3

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 hours ago

+100

Anyone who thought this would work out differently was simply not paying attention or was being willfully ignorant.

US provided a deal Zelinsky simply could not sign and they knew it. Chump set Zelinsky up for this shit show cause, in his world, Chump either gets the deal he wants or he gets to act/look tough.

And how masculine/tough to have Couchie there backing him up cause Chump isn't brave enough to do it all on his own.

And, of course, all concludes with disastrous results all around.

🤦‍♀️ 🖕 🖕 🤡

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trump’s Hot Take: If someone breaks into your home, begins stealing stuff and murdering your family, just stand by. You don’t want to cause a stir.

[–] OutlierBlue 24 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Trump's Hot Take: Give me half your stuff and I'll help you stop that other thief/murderer.

It's a great deal because he's gonna take everything.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

He's specifically saying he won't help them stop Russia he's saying he'll help a cease fire which Russia always breaks, legit I don't know of a single cease fire Russia has ever honored.

Even with Sweden they'd lose make peace then try again

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

CIA used to kill presidents for less. Sometimes American ones too.

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[–] [email protected] 225 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And then to top off his hissy fit, he kicked Zelenskyy out. Like the diaper wearing toddler he is.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

America is an enemy to freedom, democracy, and peace to the world; Americans just haven't felt it yet.

They will soon when the dictatorship turns violent, after all checks and balances are removed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Transgender Americans and other minority groups are feeling it for sure. It's just not the white suburban traditional family Americans who have felt the pinch yet (aside from the price of eggs).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, as i canadian I hope the petition is signed to allow trans folk to claim refugee status goes somewhere

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Then he cut off all aid to Ukraine for rebuilding their power grid.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, i saw that too. What a fucking petulant child

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

A petulant child *operating at the behest of a foreign dictator. This whole Stupid Show he's put on around Ukraine has proven he has Putin's dick so far up his ass that it does all the talking for him.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm already seeing the memes about Trump and Vance dominating zelenski or flat out turning this event into a joke rather than keeping it as the shit show it is. They move fast

[–] [email protected] 110 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

god maga folk are the most unamerican beyond belief. The whole greatest generation is rolling over in their graves.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Has a VP ever sat with the president while meeting with a foreign president like this? Maybe Biden in Obama's first term? Cheney and Bush the 2nd behind closed doors but never in front of the cameras

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I really wish Zelenskyy had said something to Trump like "Why are you letting him speak for you? Are you not the one in charge?"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 hours ago

Anything Zelenskyy did would have been an excuse. There was no winning this exchange, short of Putin dying in the middle of it.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Real Art of The Deal shit.

Absolute fucking masterclass in statesman-like diplomacy.

Genuinely a moment for all Americans to be proud of. Truly, exceptional.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 hours ago (11 children)

Coming from YouTube, all the comments were saying Trump put Zelenksy in his place.. are people actually that stupid, or is the whole internet edgy rightwing bots?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Your comment had me go to YouTube to check, and almost all the top 30 comments were pro Zelensky.

[–] Revan343 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if YouTube shows you different 'top' comments based on their profile on you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Possible, they don't seem to be sorted by either time, replies or likes.

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Shows his worst self

His honest self

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