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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 hour ago

I mean… tools, not jewels. It has a robust design for a reason. Develop that patina, kid. Don’t lose your mind over a scuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Indestructible little fucker

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 hours ago

Some context...

For one, it wasn't spyware, it was UEFI that, if a user had admin/root privilege, they could modify the firmware despite signinging procedures that should have prevented that. There was no spyware, there was no root kit, there was a vulnerability.

For another:

IdeaPads, Legion gaming devices, and both Flex and Yoga laptops.

Technically it never touched the ThinkPads. Despite some areas where things blur, ThinkPad is still relatively independent of the rest of the product line. While I may not think Lenovo is trying to actively spy on their consumer brands, they do screw up enough that I wouldn't want to touch them (not just security, they cut too many corners in general).

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Apple: The Gucci of the tech world.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

It really is. I once dated a girl that would rip on me for having a Samsung. She said she needed an iPhone for work cause she takes a lot of pics and uses socials a lot. She couldn't fathom that my Samsung could do all of that and arguably more

[–] Revan343 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

needed an iPhone for work cause she takes a lot of pics

She takes a lot of pictures...so she needed a worse camera?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Her problem was that her fans would then see a Samsung phone in the social pics, instead of the seasonal variety ornament that is the iPhone.

[–] ifItWasUpToMe 5 points 2 hours ago

Not sure if it’s changed by now but a lot of the social apps for Android would just take a screen grab when taking a picture, so when uploading from Android the pics looked much worse than iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

Apple vs Samsung aside, she wasn't concerned with using her own phone for work?

[–] [email protected] 139 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I hope they used the official Apple cleaning cloth that's certified compatible with that model of MacBook

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

You mean the iRag?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

The cleaning cloth pictured is the one that comes with the particular brand of screen cleaner that Apple recommends using.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

299.99$ and can connect with the cloud

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

*Will not work without an active internet connection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

No they actually cut that feature in the latest model, which retails for $499.99

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Apple Cleaning Cloth Pro, coming this October

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Normal: too small size to be useful, have apple logo

Pro: super expensive, includes 6 gallons of cleaning fluids, is enormous, logo in gold

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Actual gold, so it actively scratches your device; Apple Support blames you for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Also now you have to buy a special cloth from Apple to clean the gold logo on the Offical Apple MacBook Cleaning Cloth Pro without scratching it.

(It's cleaning cloths all the way down!)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Idk how scratch-prone the post-touchbar models are, but I've had a series of MBPs that I've been profoundly uncareful with and never had a problem.

Used a 2009 model until 2016, no scratches. 2016 model that I use to this very day, no scratches. 2017 I used for work until 2019, I ran it across an exposed screw-tip on a broken desk and it left a line you could see if you held it just right to reflect a light, but I can't imagine anything shrugging that off. 2019 model I used for work until a month ago, no scratches.

Meanwhile, the other devices that have coexisted in the same backpack have not done as well. Dented USB hub, dented dock, broken screen on an Android device, shattered screen protector on another device.

Edit: That said, I did just buy a Thinkpad to derp around with NixOS on, so I can compare and report back in a couple of years if anyone wants.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

there's a specific technology you can look for when buying a phone. this is not an apple/android phone issue. many mid and high end phones have the same anti-scratch technology apple uses. you're looking for the latest version of corning's 'gorilla glass' product. honestly anything made with 'victus' or newer is kind of ridiculously hard to scratch.

this is not a special apple-only feature, this is a part/technology they buy/license from another company, non-exclusively.

there are also cheap android phones. those exist. for people who prefer a cheap phone to a mostly indestructable phone, or cannot afford to spend 400 dollars on a ridiculous premium phone. or however much apple charges for an equivalent product with worse features and less compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

ThinkPads do scratch, but they are ugly from factory so that no one has to be anxious about it. That's the beauty of it. They also are very prone to collect finger smudges with their strange plastic soft coating. Very hard to clean even with detergent. I would know because I am a freak about keeping my laptop clean, and I can tell you from all the ThinkPads have used in the past 10 years that you will touch them the first time taking them out of the box and they will never look clean ever again.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

My MacBook survived after I left it on top of my car as I drove off. It was flung off into a pedestrian area at the first intersection and has a nice dent on the corner.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lol I drove at least a mile with my Thinkpad on top of the car. Some dude next to me at a stop light honking and miming saved me. Got up to 40mph with it still on top though!

Also did this with my cell phone and numerous water bottles. I really need to stop considering the roof a viable temporary storage location.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

I gave my old macbook air to my kid for Minecraft and he dropped it several times, still just fine with no problems. Also my 10 year old macbook pro still works perfectly fine with a quad core i7 and 16GB RAM for anything I need a laptop to do. Still has the original battery with decent runtime too.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's so funny to see how macbooks are either super durable, or die from the smallest dust particles. My dad's macbook fell down 3 flights of stairs, and embedded itself into the wood floor boards at the bottom floor. There's not even a scratch on it even though if fell from pretty high up.

And my mother's macbook dies every year because dust ends up in between the display cable which then punctures it when the lid is closed

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

That's Apple engineering for you: 60 percent of the time it works every time. I grew up with Apple products and the company's history is lined with head-scratching design choices. It's been like that since the Lisa.

I like repairable, self-built desktop PCs myself. But for work, the MacBook has been a tank.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Never regretted a purchase more than my macbook after visiting their subreddits.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

I have a pretty recent thinkpad that supposedly has "military grade durability". The plastic is literally falling apart at the corners after 2 years, and my fan grille is gone.

Fucking lenovo

[–] RandAlThor 3 points 3 hours ago

I have a 16 year old T420 that's survived numerous falls drops spills and still ticking to this day and I love it. It's the best damn keyboard to type on. Only Thinkpads for me.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Military grade is bullshit marketing. Basically anything is military grade

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I was in the Marines and I had to buy some of my shit on my own, so yeah, agree 100%.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It depends, sometimes milspec is very demanding. For example, crayons need to be non-toxic even if you eat the entire box.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Specifically in electronics there are actually milspec versions of some microchips, different from the consumer grade ones (they have a wider range of operating temperatures plus I also believe higher resistence to electromagnetic radiation and mechanical vibration, similar to microchips "for automobile use"), but I suspect that when it comes to actual consumer electronics devices the words "military grade" are not a protected tag (as in, electronic devices said to be "military grade" are not forced by regulation to have certain characteristics) so those words are generally marketing bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Military grade is code for "cheapest bidder"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Military grade means literally nothing. Actual military equipment is "mil spec", and not something the average consumer needs, or can afford, in most cases.

Even when military spec equipment is made by the lowest bidder, this stuff still has to be blast proof, bullet proof, work from -60°C to +85°C, be water/dust resistant, and many other requirements depending on what is being made.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

You can definitely get plenty of Mil spec shit, just not what you really expect. My hat is a Swedish army cap worn by some dude named Albert Kempf in Tunisia circa 1991.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is it possible to show the hat? I kinda wanna see that hat and how it looks after such a long period of use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 44 minutes ago

Note it probably hasn't had constant use cause I only got it a couple months ago, before that it was at a surplus store in Idaho falls. Now it is in SoCal, before Idaho though it could've been in a crate for all I know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I was thinking more in the direction of electronics, mechanics, etc

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody cares about thinkpads getting scratched up because the shell shows fingerprints like a motherfucker.

I love my Thinkpads though...namely because I use Linux at home and I'm cheap about laptops...used T-series is probably the best cheap Linux laptop, in general.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I played GTAV on T-430s

[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

ThinkPad is a work tool. MacBook is a fashion statement.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Not where I work. My thinkpad is managed by the understaffed IT department, and is severely crippled by clownstrike and other garbage and bloatware. Linux is not allowed, only windows.

But my colleagues who chose a MacBook don't have all that crap because said IT department haven't figured out how to remotely manage Macs yet...

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