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Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

This entire executive order is about privatizing education and taking control of the loans to give to billionaires. States already fund their own education.

This really doesn’t effect the states education budget too much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 hours ago

Because US Americans are too damn educated today and we need them to be less educated /s

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The Department of Education currently manages a student loan debt portfolio of more than $1.6 trillion.  This means the Federal student aid program is roughly the size of one of the Nation’s largest banks, Wells Fargo.  But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.  The Department of Education is not a bank, and it must return bank functions to an entity equipped to serve America’s students.

Move student loans to private banks! There it is.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago

so what im hearing is the DoE was way more efficent, and deserved additional funding, right?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

What I understand is that they are more efficient, and loans aren't even it's core business..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

I mean they basically already do this, my student loan was moved to a private servicer which basically is just a company that collects the money from my loans.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

The US is rapidly becoming the world's largest third-world country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

50 third world countries in a trenchcoat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Becoming? One could argue it’s already there and has been.

[–] whoisearth 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Depending on where you go they long have been. As a Canadian the difference between our countries is jarring as soon as you step off the beaten path.

Edit - I wanted to elaborate for those not in the know. I grew up lower middle class in Canada and have been to many smaller areas in America over the years. The poor in Canada still have education and healthcare covered by the state. Poor people are easily distinguishable but at the same time they are very much the same as everyone else.

In Canada, you take the wrong turn and you're going to be met by a friendly stranger who will help you and point you in the right direction. In America, you take the wrong turn and you're Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The true stereotype isn't that Canadians are overly nice. The true stereotype is that Americans are overly hateful.

[–] whoisearth 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Canada is what America could be if it valued the health and well being of its citizens. Not that we are doing much better but if America is at a 1 and Denmark is at a 10, Canada is at least in the 6-7 range

Edit - government debt to GDP is very telling for all countries btw. Canada is at 70% since the pandemic which is high compared to before the pandemic when we were in the high 50% range. In comparison America is 124%.

So Canada is getting far more for less money. The robber barons really have a hold down there.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/canada/government-debt--of-nominal-gdp

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Fun fact. The United States is and always will be 1st world by definition. The 'Three Worlds ' model comes down to the cold war where a country is aligned with the United States, the Soviet Union, or neutral. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. What people generally call the third world is better describe as 'global south', and they either ignore 1st and 2nd world completely or neglect the 2nd world completely and call themselves the 1st world. With regard to the United States I think you mean it's becoming the biggest fucking piece of shit country, or you might mean it is no longer aligned with itself, plans to leave NATO, is not aligned with the soviet union, and is then by definition the largest 3rd world country.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I mean... You have the assumption that definitions do not change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Huh. I always thought it was 1st, democracy, 2nd communism, 3rd all else. I'll be damned it literally was just "hey these guys don't like us, and these guys really don't like us and they also hate the soviets."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

"Becoming"? Do a search for "Portland tent city".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

No, they're about as capitalist as you can be. Wtf.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago

The fun thing is that authority over education is already in the hands of the states. And I bet that ED is already understaffed, so they probably can't ensure the things in the last line if they fire people. All that makes the order effectively already met.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm sorry anyone in a red state. You and your children will never learn a goddamn thing of worth again. Fuck this country.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My mom is a school counselor at a tiny school in a tiny town in Montana. There is no way the school stays open. Or 90% of our public schools for that matter. Part of me wants to tell her "I told you so" but generally it just sucks so bad I don't have the energy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

But they do need to be constantly reminded that their actions are what put us in this place. Forgiveness can only go so far before you have to hold people accountable for their actions. Otherwise, nothing will ever change, just continual repeat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

I'm so grateful my daughter hated Indiana her entire life and fled to Illinois immediately after undergrad. Two of my grandchildren are there with her, and I have one here. I'll be ensuring his parents read to him because I know I will. And I'll campaign to his other grandparents and aunts. I refuse to let that boy get fucked over because this country is full of stupid misogynistic, racists cunts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Good news! They already weren't. Red state public schools have been indoctrination camps for about a decade now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

good, now we can finally indebt 8 year olds too not just college students. they had it too good for too long

--trump, probably

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I've definitely heard of lunch debt, so I think it's already happening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Is america already great again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The hilarious thing about that is, up into the 1970s secondary education in California was free to CA residents, and out of state students paid far less then $200 a semester.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Remember this, Reagan started this.

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe 2 points 5 hours ago

Make america Gregg again — the dyslexic

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