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[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No shit, and how does quantifying our misery help? Like, “Congratulations, ‘you people’ are more miserable than others. See? I made a chart.”

Fuck off.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 week ago (9 children)

We view the late 40s through the 70s as a golden age for the American middle class. People raising families off a single income. Yearly vacations. Affordable higher education.

Know why?

We taxed the ever-loving fuck out of the wealthy back then.

Then the wealthy bought the politicians and stopped that from happening.

And now we're all sad.

DO. NOT. VOTE. FOR. ANYONE. THAT. DOESN'T. RUN. ON. TAXING. THE. WEALTHY. MORE.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is absurd that we essentially have a regressive income tax. I also wouldn't ignore the global environment during that period.

During those decades, the US was effectively the only industrialized nation in the world. Everyone else either never had factories to begin with, or had smoldering piles of rubble where their factories used to be.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I found it astonishing that there isn't even a 0% tax bracket anymore federally. It starts at 10% when you make your first fucking dollar. We've gone batshit backwards in this country to the point where we're trying to get every last dime from poor people so we can almost afford to have buy-borrow-die oligarchs that never pay a penny in federal taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Sales tax as well as VAT are also, by design, regressive taxes.

We turned the planet into a human labour farm.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I'm over 30 and I'm pretty fuckin' miserable, too!

But I guess I was actually paying attention to how fucked things have been politically since I was able to start voting pushing nearly 30 years ago now.


In regards to the actual article:

The researchers say they were able to pick up on the distrust by asking whether or not people believed someone would return a lost wallet. Compared to the Nordic countries, people in the U.S. were more likely to underestimate the kindness of others.

“It requires that strangers are to be trusted, that they will go beyond the call of duty and be kind and try and get it back to the rightful owner, or drop it with the police, which means you need to trust the police,” De Neve says. “That single item of the wallet drop is very powerful.”

There's literally, literally a flip side to this "lost wallet" equation in the US as well. Have you ever been the person who was kind enough to return a lost wallet? Have you also ever been the person who was accused by the person you returned it to of stealing a bunch of things (like cash) out of the wallet? It's actually a fairly common occurence in the the US. So not only is there distrust in whether or not others will return a wallet, there is a valid distrust by people who find lost wallets that the wallet owner won't lie about the original contents of the wallet and accuse them of theft anyway. At what point does it just become pointless to bother with returning a wallet at all if you're going to be accused of a crime because you did the right thing?

Apologies for (slight retch) a reddit link:
https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1j1yqt9/found_a_wallet_with_200_and_i_returned_it_to_its/

Bottom line: The US is filled with selfish untrustworthy fucking maniacs.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago

This lack of trust is literally the main goal of mass media, especially right wing media. When everyone else is your enemy, you won't work together with them for your own benefit. Instead, you'll trust the strongman to keep you safe from all the fake danger.

Social media accelerated this by an incredible amount. Today's America feels like a completely different society from the one I grew up in the 90s.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only time I found a wallet I returned it to the owner. The owner was suspicious as fuck towards me and treated me like I had stolen it even though everything was still in it. I literally picked it up off the ground, looked at the drivers license, and headed inside the store to see if they could page him and ran into him on the way in. The people I told about it were all pissed towards me for actually returning it and not just stealing the money.. It was basically unanimous that I was wrong for doing this and some of these people were friends I thought were good people up until that point. It really fucked up my faith in other people. Next time I'll just leave it be.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

When I find a wallet with no money in it, I put $20 in and give it back. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was a time when I was a student that I spent a lot of time near a particular coffee shop, and more than you would typically expect for just studying and the like, since it turned into the place where my friend group basically hung out most of the time.
In any case, it was a decently high traffic area and since I was there a lot I found two wallets and a cellphone over the time I was there a lot.

One wallet had an emergency contact I was able to call, think it was their mother, and that I'd be at the coffee shop for a bit. They brought me cookies, and I was thrilled.
Next person just had their phone number, and they acted like I was a creep for saying I had their wallet and would like to give it back to them, so I told them I was leaving it with the cashier and left it at that and was a bit sad, since being told off for trying to be nice is a bummer.
Cellphone was the worst. I called their most recent number and told them what was up (this was clearly before ubiquitous lock screens). Owner called me back in the same number and threatened to call the cops on me so I hung up, powered off the phone and put it back where I found it. Felt sad.

Given how it seems like everyone has lost their minds now, I'm not sure I would risk letting someone know I found their stuff. I'd still try to return it because that's the right thing to do, but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to use my own phone number or anything.
If people will shoot you for using their driveway to turn around I can only imagine what they'd do for a bus pass, student ID and a loyalty punch card for a bakery.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Wow, how dumb and shitty can people be? Crazy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

You seem like a good person and I'm sorry those assholes treated you like that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

And the part with dropping a found wallet with the police. We all know they're going to do fuck all to find the owner.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Have you ever been the person who was kind enough to return a lost wallet? Have you also ever been the person who was accused by the person you returned it to of stealing a bunch of things (like cash) out of the wallet?

You're saying something. I've heard first hand stories about angry wallet owners "shooting the messanger" so to speak. I'm from Germany but the saying "No good deed goes unpunished" rings true in most parts of the world, I think. That's why you throw a lost wallet into the next letter box and don't bother any further. At least that's what you're supposed to do where I'm from and I doubt any of those wallets ever arrived with their full content but that's not my problem.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Some years back i was leaving the gym (I live in the US by the by) and I found a debit card. Now the only identifying info on it was the bank associated and the name and such. I wasnt going to take it home and try and track down the person who owned it. So I took it to the associated bank, grabbed a deposit slip and wrote a note on it and dropped in the deposit box. I assume it was returned, but I honestly don't know. Felt this was the best approach given the circumstances.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No shit, we're being taken over by literal nazis. This place sucks.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be fair, a non-insignificant amount of the men under thirty think things are so bad because the Nazis aren't taking over fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah, ladies under 30, please adopt a never-fuck mindset toward any conservative. Those things tanked the country and deserve 0 pussy.

Edit: Should blanket just be any Trump voter. Knowing who you're fucking is as important as using STD and pregnancy protection.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost zero chance of buying a home or affording rent. Prices going out of control on almost everything. A Nazi in the White House and social media so toxic it melts your mind. The beatings will continue until morale improves. What a terrible place we have created for the next generation.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Also your minimum wage is shit for a “first” world country. $7.25?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In the state with the highest minimum wage in the country, Washington currently at $16.66, you can still work full time and be unable to afford a 300 square foot studio on your own. It's nigh impossible to work full time at minimum wage in any state in the US and actually be able to get an apartment on your own.

Further, many rentals are increasing required income levels and instead of requiring your monthly income to be three times the cost of rent, they're pushing for your monthly income being four times the cost of rent. Also, renters insurance has become a requirement, not just a nice thing to have. If you let your renters insurance lapse, you're breaking your lease.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

16.66 for min wage but all the jobs are part-time with no scheduling sanity so holding two jobs is difficult to impossible. Anyone realizing this isn’t an accident?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

When asked how miserable millennials are, the response was overwhelmingly unchanged, in-fact the generation regards itself as having the shittiest life experience marked by late-stage capitalism, and the adoption of a boring cyberpunk dystopia. US millennials largely see retirement as something impossible, as many cannot afford homes, cars, or healthcare.

See, that's why they just mention under 30s, because it's far worse for the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I am in my mid 20s and Gen Z. Most under 30s are Gen Z now.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It pisses me off so much because the goddamn problem is RIGHT IN FRONT of everyone's eyes and yet so much energy is spent on bullshitting the masses....I want off this ride

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Is it that clear? What is the problem and what would be your aproach to a solution?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not just under 30. My husband is disabled and if ACA or VA benefits get cut he will die. Horribly but slowly, in our house where I will have to take care of him until the end. And pray we still have enough of a functioning society to bury him when the time comes. How I am supposed to feel anything other than horror and dread for the future!?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

dude...americans OVER 30 are miserable too

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It is normal for older people to be jaded. Having the young, idealistic age start out life jaded and miserable really drags the average down.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I was miserable when I was younger too, I'm just really good at it now.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Checking in with the chorus of over 30s that basically don't expect good things to happen again.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well over 30.

I'm 95% certain our quality of life is going to degrade for the remainder of our lives in this country.

I'm not even going out of my way to be pessimistic. I've been alive for a while now and all the signs point to this being our future.

And it was all easily avoidable with even just a little common sense and critical thinking skills from average Americans.

Needless to say, I'm not really a fan of humans anymore. We're pretty stupid animals.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I often wonder where we would be at if the hanging chads went the other way.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't know who these over 30 happy people are. The pres just said he plans to rendition citizens to a foreign prison anytime he reasons they did something to warrant it. My brother with kids is super worried. I don't have kids but still not likin it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're moving with as many of our adult children as we can convince and logistically manage out of this place. The US is losing two STEM PhD holders, multiple bachelors in engineering, and other bachelors degree holders. Yes, we're stupidly lucky to have the resources to make the move, but it's going to basically destroy my retirement resources. It's worth it if my children have a chance of a better life. We're racing the clock to get out before the borders are closed.

Fuck the Nazis in charge of this place and the people who voted them into power.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm European, and I get miserable reading about the USA.

It's also quite telling that I see so many American expats here nowadays. It used to be quite rare, usually if you met an American living here they would be either working for an American company, or have a relationship with a local.

Now, I'm just meeting a lot of super talented and smart Americans who took a major paycut just to not live in the US anymore.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

I'll be real, it really bugs the shit out of me that the affluent would rather just bail to Europe and leave the most vulnerable of us behind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As long as they personally can escape somewhere safer, they don't give one single fucking shit about what happens to their less fortunate fellow countrymen. Not all poors are Trumpers. Some of us got fucked by *checks notes... cancer drugs that cost $18k a month. Ask me how I know.

I sneer and look down on every single one of those "talented and smart Americans" who leave their talented, smart, empathetic, and fucked by the economic system of the US brethren behind to rot.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

If you don’t feel like you have any power to influence anything it’s normal to bail.

Clearly the US wants to be fucked up. I’ve been trying to stop that for decades. When should I admit that this is what the country wants and that it’s foolish to think otherwise.

People put their own oxygen masks on first for a reason. If I could leave I’d be gone, too.

Feel free to sneer at me, though. People are all terrible and I’m one of them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Why should they go down with the ship?

Put your energy here.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Oh and it isn't like Americans over 30 are any happier?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I'm here to assure you that we're not. The only ones who are happy are boomers who lucked into an impossibly good economy that will never return. They amassed wealth and think it's because they worked hard while in conditions that only existed because multiple economies were destroyed by war while USA was untouched. And now they continue to hoard power in government and refuse to let younger generations have a seat at the table. Fuck them.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Yee that tracks. I can already see the brain drain

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In just 3 months the US became a developing country. That must be a record.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gee can't see why. We should probably tax them more and deregulate billionaires more

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