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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I wonder if we'll start seeing major international trade shows held in Vegas like CES, BlackHat, DEFCON, SEMA, MAGIC etc. are going to start holding their conferences elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 days ago

Honestly very understandable

[–] Pyr_Pressure 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I'll (Canada) probably be skipping a conference that we usually do each year in the states as well. Not worth potentially getting my phone/laptop scanned and data stolen.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Imagine getting to a point where people need burner phones to enter the US.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm trans. If there is a scientific conference in the states, you can be damn sure I'll be sitting that one out

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Wasn't that already the case since 9/11 and the Patriot Act?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was thinking some people are being forced to go by work. Can't imagine going willingly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Better to lose your job than lose your life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of people are in the position where it's maybe a 0.1% of losing their life if they go, and an 80% chance of losing their job if they don't. That makes the calculation a lot more difficult, and causes all kinds of stress.

Of course, any job that would force you to go when you don't feel fully safe is a shitty job. But, a lot of people don't feel like they have the option to leave a shitty job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I'd imagine individuals esteemed enough to attend international conferences/events know that they have other job options. This aren't paper-pushers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

If its off and encrypted, they can't steal your data.

They can copy it. They can't break the encryption.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We should be ripping our institutions apart at the seams over this. Thats fucken bullshit. Their our allies.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Damn, it can happen at anytime.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

I'm not sure if that was deliberate or accidental, either way it's beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

"The necklaces are too damn long!"

[–] corsicanguppy 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Slam_Eye 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have visited the us on long roadtrips down both coasts. I was shocked at the state of their cities. Extremely run down and in a poor state, homeless everywhere and the people who werent homeless were very fat and unhealthy. It was very unpleasant to be there.

[–] phoenixz 5 points 5 days ago

Average US visit right there

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Smart. Stay the hell away from the US.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’m surprised even foreign musicians are even traveling here after what happened to UK Subs.

[–] Sunshine 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Hold them in Aussie land instead!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Australia is great. I lived there for a year and loved it.

But, it's far from everywhere. Getting there takes an extremely long time on a plane, and burns a lot of carbon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Hear me out. Host them online and from multiple locations at once. I know we're not quite there in terms of vr or ar, but I've spent plenty of time wasting time in VRC with limeies and kiwis and it was seamless to communicate effectively as if we were standing 2 ft apart while being on opposite sides of the planet. Flying is bad for the planet sincerely an American.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As someone who often attends and speaks at these type of events, I would advice against that. The main benefit of these events lies in the connections people make. These connections are very personal and don't really work in a virtual context (yet, might in the future though). Most innovations are inspired by having a chat with other people and just throw some ideas and different perspectives around. That won't happen if you treat a conference as a Teams meeting, people would just dial in, give their presentation and leave. Frankly, most presentations or talks during these conferences could have been (usually are) an article anyways. It's the discussions that happen outside of these agenda items where the value is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I would guess that you have not experienced social VR yet. As I said above as far as communication goes, it's like physically being in the same room with 80 other people even though the closest person to me is actually 300 miles away. Is it perfect? No. Is it clunky at times? Yes very at minimum you need to wear a headset and have controllers and trackers. The technology is not fully developed at this point, however there is profound potential. With the current social video game. VRC I can connect to a virtual world grab a virtual marker and draw my entire idea out or write out math or poetry or any other thing I want and display it to them there in real time and they can collaborate with me in real time. There are also ways to easily share most media formats.

Within the next 10 years, I guarantee you somebody's going to build an entire company off integrating that kind of tech into a purpose-built Business solution

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I have experimented with VR meetings. It's very hard to justify why the extra expense and hassle is worth it over a conventional video call (with whiteboard and screen sharing)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Technology is moving fast, I have experienced something similar in a metaverse like setting (release of a new luxury watch in a metaverse). It was a bit odd to describe. The vibe was closer to a Nintendo Mii gathering than an actual meeting. I'm sure one day we will get into the realm of sci-fi VR meetings, basically teleportation without actually moving. Just look at how quickly video calling went from sci-fi to basically being the norm in business these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The land of oz is the correct term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I didn't know they have an Emerald City 🌪️🐕🏠

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Neato, TIL. The article article didn't actually give a reason, but it got me curious, so I looked elsewhere. This one says a play that was making an Land of Oz reference https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/why-is-sydney-called-the-emerald-city/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

I honest to God do not want to visit the US for a long time and I have family there. I fear for them every day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I think it's ridiculous DFAT hasn't updated the smart traveller website. Exercise normal precautions my ass

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

It seems reasonable. The US has gotten pretty insane and unpredictable.

Idk how far it is from being like visiting East Berlin before the wall was taken down, or the Soviet Union, but there certainly seems to be some of that kind of risk. It's bad and getting worse. Their actions and intentions are threatening to at some point surpass both of those, and be about as insane as visiting Nazi Germany.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

i was partner with a lab partner while i was in undergrad bio lab class, basically she went to all these talks or conferences 10+years ago. too bad she was a terrible lab partner, as she would use this against me why she wouldnt help in this GROUP project we were doing at the time. that just gave me awful feeling about the industry as a whole, are people this concerned about thier reputation that they are willing to sabotage thier lab partners