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Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, another LPC-CPC nail-biter (lemmy.ca)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by avidamoeba to c/canada
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Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake is another close LPC-CPC race that could use any help from non-LPC voters. It used to be a CPC seat.

This page shows a nice visualization of the closest races.

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[–] Dearche 4 points 1 day ago

Every time I see one of these, I get a bit more depressed. It's just incredible how people can vote for a party that openly declared to make depriving Canadians of some of their fundamental rights as part of their platform. How if you take even ten seconds to think about their policies, they're basically to purely empower the rich and powerful, while screwing over 98% of Canadians.

They basically stand on the same platforms as the Nazi party did almost a hundred years ago, and it's not like they're the only right-wing party. Just the most extreme right-wing one that has more than 1% of the expected votes.

[–] anguo 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's my first time voting in Canada, and the liberal candidate has a 99% chance of winning in my riding. My vote feels pretty useless.

[–] Eiri 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In a riding where the other candidates don't stand a chance, I vote for the candidate who doesn't stand a chance but whose party's values I like best. Like the NDP or the greens.

Doesn't do much, but in a way, it's freeing and I can pretend I'm free to vote for anyone.

If someone has a chance to beat the worst candidate, though, I'll vote for the most likely one. And that's the most depressing situation of all.

I really hate this voting system. But it'd take a miracle for it to change.

[–] anguo 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's what I'm leaning towards. I was trying to figure out if the parties get anything from my (losing) vote, and from what I understand they do get some funding from votes (?).

[–] Eiri 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Parties used to get a bit of funding for every vote. Conservatives didn't like that and they repealed it under Harper.

Now all they get is, I guess, pride?

[–] anguo 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks, this is the first real answer I got for this!

[–] ImplyingImplications 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Conservative candidate has a 99% chance of winning in my riding. Thankfully voting only took 10 minutes out of my day so, while it feels useless, at least it's quick and painless!

[–] lobut 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah about the same. I still feel like we should be voting regardless.

I always had an opinion of, if I don't vote (as a bare minimum) I can't complain about the outcome. I am considering maybe being more politically active or involved lately though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The best thing you can do is advocate for a change to a different system. Instant Runoff Voting would be the bare minimum. Proportional systems like MMP are even better.

[–] avidamoeba 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Welcome to .. everyone's world who's bothered to learn how the system works. Many don't get this far. It's a bit hard to accept at first but it's what we have to work with. That's why it's important to understand all the different opportunities to affect change. For example keeping track of different parties' leadership elections and voting in those. Or pestering your MP for what you want to see happen, like some folks here pester them for electoral reform. The same goes with provincial parties and elections. And municipal elections. And getting involved in any of those campaigns. And so on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's tough, you can vote strategically to make sure the party you want the least doesn't get in, or you can vote for the party that aligns with your ideals. I can't say there is a right or wrong way, but if you don't vote, that's how people like the Orange Cheeto down south gets in.

[–] anguo 2 points 2 days ago

Just for the record, I absolutely do not advocate for abstention. Voting is important, even in situations like mine. And I say this coming from a country where voting is a legal obligation.

[–] corsicanguppy 7 points 2 days ago

So Jagmeet could Stein this vote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I've never been to Niagra, but looking at it it seems houses are actually insanely cheap there, this is a beautiful home right near the river. Whys it so different now from everywhere else in Canada, how did prices stay back in time?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/685-Chilton-Ave-Niagara-Falls-NY-14301/31442017_zpid/

[–] Sturgist 6 points 2 days ago

That's the American side of the border. Few blocks and a river too far to the south east.

[–] rbesfe 4 points 2 days ago

Niagara falls new York is a bombed out ghetto. Niagara falls Ontario is a little trashy but nowhere near as bad

[–] avidamoeba 1 points 2 days ago

They've just fallen as they fell in most places but perhaps more.