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FBI arrests judge in escalation of Trump immigration enforcement effort (www.cnbc.com)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I really wish independent journalism existed so you could find out basic facts like "how often does the FBI normally arrest judges?" "Has a judge ever been arrested for obstruction of justice?" "Do they never get arrested inside a courthouse?"

I'm sure Judges sometimes commit crimes, just like everyone else. Are they normally given special deference and not arrested? Do they only get arrested for serious charges, and normally they get special dispensation because of their judge status?

Arresting judges does sound alarming, but without context it's impossible to know just how norm-breaking it is.

For example, if a judge is pulled over and found to be driving drunk, I most definitely would want that judge arrested and charged. Not arresting and charging a judge in that situation sounds like institutional corruption. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens, but I don't know because these journalists aren't doing their damn jobs.

Don't get me wrong, in this case I'm pretty convinced that the Trump people are overstepping their bounds. It seems like a pattern of attacking the judiciary. And, this isn't the judges being arrested for driving drunk or accepting bribes. This is judges being arrested for things related to immigration. Immigration, in particular, is something that the Trump administration is doing completely unlawfully.

But, how can we have any kind of informed dialogue when the standard of reporting is: "One side said 'It's outrageous they arrested a judge', the other side said 'the administration won't accept judges breaking the law.' The judge may have been a democrat."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Probably because the article is from a business news outlet. I have heard a lawyer talk about the case, saying it was very unusually for her to be arrested for such charges (Leeja Miller I believe; not really a journalist, just a youtuber).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

That's the problem. Someone shouldn't have to find a random YouTuber to get basic answers.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

Hannah Dugan is a hero and a patriot

[–] [email protected] 47 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

when the fuck do we rise up?

As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

Never.

And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting on your ass and whining about genocide in a country you couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

This was avoidable.

And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.

[–] KingPorkChop 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I think you guys are going to sit and boil.

If you ask me, things should have started burning a few months ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I think you’re 100% correct.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, this is a exactly what Trump wants. He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections. All of this is calculated.

[–] KingPorkChop 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections.

And the alternative is sit and let ICE blackbag innocents?

The US has the 2nd amendment, which they love so much. ICE should be getting gunned down in the street by this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

This is how you guarantee trump’s third term.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I dunno about that. This was more or less Chuck Schumers approach to passing his agenda. If you fight him it's going to get worse, so don't fight? I feel foreign nationals shouldn't be leading the charge because of their vulnerability, but for full-fledged us born citizens following the law with their rebuke, surely many would martyr themselves for a historical rally against fascism knowing the ACLU would defend them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I blame the "fuck you got mine" mentality that's become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren't equipped for that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I feel it started before and it was like that before covid. I'm gen Z and I remember around 2017 the rise of popularity of songs about "me me me being the #1 gang banger the gangster, them bitches love me, them ni**as hating" among the people in my age group, and it sorta just grew from there.

What I noticed during covid and once TikTok style videos became mainstream was sort of a "normalization" or acceptance of the phenomena mentioned above.

Remember Wall-E were everyone in the future is a fat individualistic human being, connected to a bed on wheels with a screen and everyone seems to be doing their own thing with no resemblance of families, couples, friends, goals?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Agreed I’m 42 and personally growing up in the late 80s and 90s I feel like Regan and Rush Limbaugh were both a big influence on the situation the country is in now. And honestly, you can go back to Nixon and JFK getting assassinated as the main focal point from when America stopped being America and became more conservative and for the money and for the wealthy.

[–] Randomgal 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard when only 55% of people disapprove of your king.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Allegedly, it only takes 3.5% of a population to enact change through nonviolent protests. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

Maybe give that an honest try first? Hard to unring a bell.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Americans won't do shit. The tech oligarchy and the facists have the population exactly where they want them to be, struggling and unable to take actions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Struggling economically and doom scrolling from the moment they wake up, until they go to bed.

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