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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I know most people on Lemmy are already aware of this, but I'm wondering if anyone who still doesn't think it will effect U.S. citizens (whatever that even means anymore) realize that DHS is also trying to dismantle their civil rights offices.

They are claiming it is because the offices keep getting in the way of their immigration practices, but only 2 of the 3 offices have to do with immigration.

They 3rd is the office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties. It doesn't matter if you believe you're the "right kind of American," or you can argue that you can trace your family to the Mayflower. This is who ensures you have civil rights and civil liberties while dealing with DHS. If you or a loved one end up in DHS custody for some reason and need to use FOIA to prove it happened, this is the office you would rely on.

The people that handle domestic security for the country want to get rid of the office that protects the rights of Americans. Meanwhile, they have also signed this memo saying they no longer need a warrant to search people's homes if they suspect there might be an immigrant hiding in your home bc those immigrants might be terrorists.

Again, if you're thinking well I'm not hiding immigrants, it really doesn't matter.

Maybe one of your neighbors reported you were to fuck with you. Maybe you pissed off the wrong DHS agent or other government employee and you're being targeted.

The point is, if you're not concerned because you think it won't effect you, your ancestors that "came here legally" to escape tyranny would think you're either stupid, delusional, or simply choosing to be in complete denial of reality.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe one of your neighbors reported you were to fuck with you. Maybe you pissed off the wrong DHS agent or other government employee and you're being targeted.

This is exactly what happened during the French Reign of Terror, the Salem Witch Trials, and countless other times throughout history. It's happened before, and it will happen again. If someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, they would now have a way to get rid of you, just by using one accusation, regardless of whether it's true or not.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

This shit is so similar to the reign of terror and other failed authoritarian playbooks, I've honestly wondered if they're just feeding AI historical data to come up with plans that avoid the pitfalls of previous dictators.

Like they don't comprehend that dictatorships will always inevitably fail because people have an innate desire/drive to be free from oppression and tyranny. Not because dictator X did Y instead of Z, so maybe if they combine dictator X's strategy with dictators A and B, it might just work this time!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Yeah this is serious authoritarian secret police 101

They just defanged Congress and the Judicial, now they don't need judges at all unless they want em. This seals the coup

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Yep.

This means the 4th Amendment is dead.

Oh, any LE agency wants to search your house? Your car?

Uh, hrm, which very vaguely suspected migrants live in your building, your neighborhood?

2 miles away? Whatever, close enough.

Ok, now you've got ICE at your door, on the flimsiest evidence, connected in the flimsiest way, to a person suspected on a different set of flimsy evidence...

... And they are just searching your place because random guy may have been in the area, might have burgled you, whatever, who cares, we've got a warrant, lots of guns, do not interfere with our investigation.

[–] mp3 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Let's see how long it takes for an ICE goon to get the FAFO treatment.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In a more just world, our local police forces would stop this illegal activity.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Hmm. Stand your ground against fascism.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

It sounds like we should prepare for a rash of home invasion shootings. (I'm not promoting anything, just saying)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

And they will claim they are in their right to return force. Idk what to tell you. I agree this is fucked up and you should have a right to defend your home.

That is the most basic American shit. The people that are on the white house legal team agree with that unless it conflicts with executive authority. To me that seems like you might as well have a king at that point, but they believe that a leader is chosen to promote what is best for his people. Given he was elected to do that, law and order (which is up to the leaders interpretation) takes presedence over liberty.

Adrian Vermeule is a Harvard constitutional law professor who has been making the argument the constitution should be interpreted to favor executive authority and power over individual liberty for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

So now thieves can just write ICE on a vest and they can rob you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Gee I wonder what Americans tend to do to trespassers.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there's already a video of them doing this.

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