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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.

Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

a lot of .world users say this was a conspiracy

Well. It is a conspiracy. A conspiracy theory, even! I have a very compelling theory that Boeing conspired to kill that guy.

Just because it's a conspiracy (we allege that people conspired to do something bad) theory (we don't have absolute, provable-before-a-judge-and-jury hard evidence) doesn't mean that it's false. Also daily reminder that the CIA purposefully adopted the term "conspiracy theory" to convince the public to dismiss allegations that they secretly did something bad by associating them with Bigfoot and aliens. At the same time as they were secretly drugging random members of the public with LSD and watching them freak out and fall out of windows.

[–] [email protected] 251 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/

[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 days ago (4 children)

there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:

finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.

so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?

they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
….
i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….

[–] [email protected] 93 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You've misread the passive language here. 'no prints were recovered' can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn't, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation...

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (15 children)

An unpopular opinion, but I'm not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Well I certainly won't be purchasing any Boeing products in the near future.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

That's one

But what about

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi

And we still deal with the Saudis like it never happened

[–] [email protected] 127 points 6 days ago (2 children)

But one ceo gets killed and the polic and fbi go all in

[–] adarza 55 points 5 days ago

they're just doing their job. protecting the interests of big business and the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

[You have been banned from Reddit]

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago

About a week before OOP's post the openAi whistleblower also died mysteriously https://apnews.com/article/openai-whistleblower-suchir-balaji-death-283e70b31d34ebb71b62e73aafb56a7d

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago

I'd be more likely to believe that Boeing tried to kill him if he didn't die

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

It's a very plausible conspiracy theory. I think it warrants way more investigation than it got.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine how many people whose names you haven’t heard just randomly committed suicide one day. Or had an accident. Or just disappeared.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Victoria Giuffre more recently in regards to Epstein.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

she also said quite publicly that she’s not suicidal and she would never do that to her family, and if that happened she was suicided…

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Chiquita overthrew a government and everyone still loves their bananas 🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

who I do remember is Brock Turner, yes that guy.. the rapist Brock Turner. who now goes by the name of Allen Turner. that guy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

You mean the pathetic rapist Brock Turner, who now goes by Allen Turner (also a pathetic rapist)?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There was a police investigation.

They just didn't investigate Boeing about it because the police investigation determined they weren't involved.

If you truly believe there should be investigations, you have to accept when the results of the investigations don't match your expectations. That's why we have investigations.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The military industrial company a person was whistleblowing against wasn't investigated in the mysterious death of that person.

Yeah that's called not doing a proper investigation.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I need to step in here with a major correction, John Barnett was not Whistleblowing. That's not what the court case was about at all.

No, the court case was for the wrongful termination, which was a result of his whistleblowing.

This is an important distinction, because the whistleblowing was done. John Barnett had nothing more to offer authorities, because he had already turned over all the evidence he collected. That particular case was a done deal years ago.

John Barnett then sued Boeing over his wrongful termination, and some apparent black balling. (i.e. retaliatory rumormongering to prevent John from working in aerospace).

John lost the lawsuit. He then appealed that decision, and it wasn't going well.

This is the situation that led to his suicide. Boeing 100% drove a man to kill himself. But no, they didn't fucking hire some guy to go kill John Barnett, that would be fucking stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Law enforcement would never lie.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what now we like conspiracy theories when they suit us?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago (21 children)

Chat,

Did the Boeing whistleblower who deliberately told his family and friends that he wasn't suicidal commit suicide?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about tha other one a few weeks off from that one?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How are we supposed to keep track of all these Boeing whistleblowers suiciding themselves all over the place?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Suicidal people lie about being suicidal.

That's like the first thing you learn Suicide Awareness.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

the most interesting part to me is that nowhere along the line did anyone mention just how interesting it all is. you know the real bad shit has started when the press shuts up and universities bend over and one of the richest people in the fucking world has to re-think his pricing displays because it pissed off the King.

edit to add - he put a fucking tax on british tea without congress. that's a taxation without representation. on british fucking tea.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy

Reminds me of the Epstein thing. It could be AI. But people do love their conspiracy theories, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Unless there’s actual evidence that it’s AI, I think this is an absolutely absurd assumption to make.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

This is honestly a subject I get annoyed about. The US has ‘whistleblower’ protections but it’s really not there. This isn’t a black-op opp, it’s a failure of protections/proper compensations for blowing the whistle. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life dedicated to one field of engineering. You’ve now sacrificed it to blow the whistle. It’s not fair, nor is it just, but that’s what happens.

Boeing has done so much wrong that it honestly feels negligent to focus on a perceived assassination. And it directs attention away from how whistleblowers could be protected

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