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Is this Gain?
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Fuuuuck you beat me to it
Sorry for your loss
Same. The exact sentence.
Now I must start WW3.
I too had the same thought. I would say great minds think alike, but I'm dumb as shit
In Germany we say "Zwei Dumme, ein Gedanke" (two stupid people, one thought)
I've got good news! The full quote is "Great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ."
So it can still apply to you, it just means you're calling OP a fool too 😄
Warning: lighthearted yammering about etymology ahead 🤓
The earliest instance of the proverb in its present form seems be from 1898:- "Curious how great minds think alike. My pupil wrote me the same explanation about his non-appearance." [1898 C. G. Robertson Voces Academicae]
The eraliest version of it at all seems to be from 1618 when D. Belchier wrote "Though he made that verse, Those words were made before. Good wits doe jumpe." [1618 D. Belchier Hans Beer-Pot ] ( The word jump used in the sense of ‘agree completely’ or ‘coincide’ is now archaic.)
A few years back a list of "real quotes that means something different than people think they do" went around. That contained the "fools seldom differ" line and it seems to have taken off from there. I'm sure it was used earlier, but didn't find an origin.
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I like the double twist, I was expecting the guy from the photo in the original comic
Gain
Is this profit?
now the internet can begin to heal
How to hold a baby like in the comic
I've never understood all the hate levied at 'loss'. Can you imagine experiencing a miscarriage, building a popular web comic, and then integrating your own experience into it, showing one of your most vulnerable moments, and then it becomes a ruthlessly mocked meme?
It is impossible to fully understand loss as it happened without being around to witness what an absolute shitbag Buckley had been online for a long time preceding it. A big part of what made loss so ridiculous was it being so sanctimonious from the internet's most childish shithead.
Why don't we hear what the author of Loss thinks about the miscarriage then, quoted in a comic?
wtf did the author leave her after a miscarriage???
Yep, now you know why Loss is mocked.
It's about as authentic as Trump working in a McDonald's.
It kinda came out of left field and pissed off all the people that actually liked the sitcom that CAD was becoming.
Also, Tim Buckley's news post commenting on the comic made him sound like an asshole. Cyanide & Happiness actually spoofed the Loss comic but with the guy delivering a snippet of Buckley's post
Yeah, it came out of left field, but it's an Indy webcomic. It's his singular expression and ip. Why should the audience a) feel so entitled to react in such an invasive and insensitive way, b) react with anger instead of empathy? It's just childish.
it was far more than an indie comic at the time, it rivalled penny arcade for readership. there was a convention and everything.
reading the preceding and following ten pages is insane tonal whiplash because the comic didn't tell coherent stories and it wasn't about to start just because there was a horrible, traumatic event written into it. also, there was no indication from tim at the time that it was connected to real-world events. that came later.
none of which, of course, is an excuse. however, the reaction to the comic was typical of fans at the time, and tim's reaction to the fans was more of the same. it passed into memehood not because of any connection to the artist's internal turmoil, but because of the very visible turmoil of the webcomic ripping itself apart from inside in an attempt to reestablish normalcy. it was crazy to witness.
Yeah ultimately we don’t know how people are processing their grief, which he clearly was, and even if we don’t like something or have critiques, the vitriol he received was wildly disproportionate to what he did. At worst it was “in poor taste” but even that is a stretch if you ask me
pointing and laughing isn't hate and vitriol lol, please stop trying to make a pariah out of the guy.
Let’s see how you like that treatment for a decade everywhere you go online.
that's the thing about making a living telling jokes, sometimes they're timeless :)
You’re certainly a jerk
It's because the comic strip's style and history didn't fit the story being told. If anything, it was a massive tonal shift compared to previous comic strips in the whole webcomic.
The author was used to the 4-panel comic layout, which was great for comedic setups and punchlines, and didn't know to switch to something more appropriate for such a somber subject in Loss. That's why Loss feels lifeless, rather than sad.
There are so many great ways to add tension and emotion in comic form through panel layouts, compositions, style, and shading; if Loss had employed any of those to convey a compelling emotional story, it would not have been so badly received, even if posted in the same webcomic series.
I thought art was supposed to make you feel uncomfortable sometimes if done right. That's what i was taught/learned was what made art valuable because it forces/compells an emotional response.
In the case of Loss it may have been a jarring departure in style but it was also the dudes lived experience and he chose to externalize it, which is generally supposed to be healthy and a way to heal.
But dudes weren't/aren't ever rewarded for it if they don't also please others while doing it, only get beaten down and made to feel shame.
Stunning lack of empathy to care more about the fictional world created by the actual real human being who created it
I think the simple answer is tone. Just as a silly moment can undercut drama and the serious tone, a serious page in an otherwise light-hearted comic is jarring.
Imagine if Garfield and Jon had a moment where Jon confides in Garfield that he has cancer and he is worried it may be fatal; without some sort of punch line to lighten the moment it would feel sad, dark, and foreboding which goes against the tone set by the rest of the comic.
You reminded me of a distant memory of a sad Garfield comic.
Oh I understand why people didn't like it. It just feels to utterly entitled and unempathetic to react in the way his audience did. It's an Indy webcomic, not a professional newspaper strip. And even if it were, it wouldn't be the first time that a comedy comics artist injected some personal drama or statement.
I mean, i loved Garfield growing up, and if I'd seen that strip you've described, I wouldn't react with anger. I'd be saddened. I'd realize that the author is speaking directly to me about his own fears, his own anxiety.
I think Hareton Splimbys (hbomberguys) video about loss explains the criticism/hate it received pretty well. It’s just a really weird and uncalled for departure of this usually comedic, lighthearted and gaming-centric cliche webcomic
Great, that still leaves everyone that turned it into a meme an unoriginal jackass.
i could give you a million reasons, but i can try to boil it down.
- the webcomic was not a serious or dramatic affair, and swapped between silly one off gags and a linear narrative, so Loss was squared up with goofy comedy
- the author took a real event that he and his girlfriend experienced, but appeared to have a completely unsympathetic and callous opinion on his real ex's real miscarriage
- the derivative nature of the webcomic series in both style and substance, and its perfect encapsulation of gamers and gaming culture, makes it s prime target for eternal parody by outsiders and insiders alike
Got that baby in a headlock.
I'm at a loss
Is this found?
Ah
is it los