this post was submitted on 17 May 2025
280 points (97.3% liked)

politics

23680 readers
4727 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Oh I think I know how this will end.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The history on this is interesting

Trump banned bump stocks as a reaction to the Vegas massacre.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-issues-rule-banning-bump-stocks-year/story?id=59884493

Then the supreme court ruled that unconstitutional.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/14/g-s1-2929/supreme-court-bump-stocks

Now the trump admin is going to permit more things like the bump stock to be sold legally. Specifically, something that makes a semi automatic gun fire much more rapidly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would be a very Trumpian thing if he lost the civil uprising because of this decision.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

This really wouldn't make a difference. It isn't hard to bend a coat hanger or drill a third hole.

Also, FRTs and bump stocks are really just range toys.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember gang, if your ID has an l, g, b, t, or q on it you qualify as desperately in need of guns.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

I just wish I had a gay gun owning friend who could go to the gun store with me. I know what I want, I just like hand holding.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No need, seriously don't buy at a gun store. Buy online and ship it to your big box store FFL, and then go pick up there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hmmm

Internet credit card purchase,

Or

Backwoods shack cash purchase.

Hmmm.

Shit, you can buy guns at gas stations in my neck of the woods.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I buy most of mine used locally via our state gun forum. Most states have one, just go on there look around, meet up, pay cash, show CCW and done.

I've yet to purchase a firearm that was "used up". Most I buy people put a few hundred rounds through them at best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The gay gun, like a ray gun. I think they sell it at sharper image

load more comments (18 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The Trump administration seems pretty confident these won't be used against them personally.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ekYplstlikU

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they literally have a force feedback loop of propaganda aimed at themselves 24/7.

They think they own all 500 million guns in the US and they are all John J Rambo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's a select fire switch which is a little different.

What this is about are Hellfire Triggers which are impossible to control. If you know what one looks like, you can make it yourself.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All the other kids with their pumped up kicks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Sandy Hook 2 Electric Boogaloo. I can feel nothing but sorrow for the children of america's education system. Forget not Columbine, Sandy Hook, Uvalde, Virginia Tech, Parkland, Texas Tower, Red Lake, or Santa Fe.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Wasn't the bump stock banned by Trump after the Vegas shooting? Then unbanned under Biden?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Supreme Court unbanned it 6-3. Not really Biden's call.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I get gun enthusiasm. Like, as a hobby. Those folks that hang out at the range are as nerdy as the folks that hang out at the model airplane club. This isn't for them. This is for the baddies. It's strange considering that Trump had a close attempt on his life involving a gun with iron sights. You would think he would want to be the last person involved in approving more effective people killers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“We were going to win this,” said the former senior ATF official. “These things are not like bump stocks."

Forced reset devices are actually exactly like bump stocks in that they're legal because they force a distinct action of the trigger for every round fired. The legal definition of a machine gun is a firearm that fires more than one round per single action of the trigger. They haven't bothered to amend or expand that definition, so these types of devices keep skirting by on a technicality.

I suppose the argument could be made that forced reset devices work in a very similar way to a machine gun's auto sear, the difference being that they act on the trigger of the gun rather than the hammer, but it still doesn't meet the government's own definition of a machine gun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The ATF is a s terrifying joke.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

This will help his pardoned militia in 3 years

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In other countries they sell modified versions of these handguns that cannot be made into machine guns with a switch. This is the real solution, but for some reason gun manufacturers can do no wrong in the US and are not held to higher safety standards.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

In Belgium, of all places, you can buy fully auto weapons from shops with just a collectors license.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you have evidence to support that? Because AFAIK, the Glocks made both in the US and Austria have exactly the same design. OTOH, in most of Europe, it's very difficult to get the appropriate license for a handgun, so it's largely irrelevant.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Just ordered one for my pistol. Will be a fun (and stupid) way to mag dump a drum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

that means YOU can buy one too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I like how you are acting like most of us haven't played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It's certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren't a thing.

I fully expect for police to have to fear being "suppressive fired" soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Let us not forget... an FRT doesn't even constitute a "machine gun" by their own definition!

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck kids going to school in the United States

[–] hddsx 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Before I read the article, I’m going to go with “bump stocks” as the device. Let’s find out if I’m right…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nope although they do get a mention. Apparently in this case it's forced reset triggers. Saying they allow a semi-auto gun to fire like a full-auto is a bit of a stretch though, even more so than for a bump stock.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that’s such horse shit. You still have to pull the trigger.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

There are plenty of untrained idiots that will end shooting up a ceiling or the sky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

so you can turn a simi into a functionally auto rifle but you cant put a suppressor on it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No suppressor, no super long mags, no belt feed, no barrel mounted grenade launcher, no incendiary rounds.

What is and what is not legal is funny in the US

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm commenting from New Zealand where we have real restrictions on semi rifles, but can own as many suppressors as we like

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›