this post was submitted on 27 May 2025
37 points (100.0% liked)

Canada

9726 readers
1016 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Related Communities


🍁 Meta


🗺️ Provinces / Territories


🏙️ Cities / Local Communities

Sorted alphabetically by city name.


🏒 SportsHockey

Football (NFL): incomplete

Football (CFL): incomplete

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


💻 Schools / Universities

Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.


💵 Finance, Shopping, Sales


🗣️ Politics


🍁 Social / Culture


Rules

  1. Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca


founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] AGM 2 points 6 hours ago

Puts in context all the fear mongering about China's military buildup while they're sitting at 1.7% of GDP.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its not "NATO" eying it. Its the US.

U.S. President Donald Trump has said for months he wants to see NATO countries increase their defence spending to five per cent of GDP.

I assume most other countries are against it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear I've seen figures that most of the EU have gone from <2-5% between 2015 and 2026/7, so I'm sure that includes most of NATO.

They better redirect those funds away from the US though, otherwise we really are screwed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The goal for the last decade was 2%, this has been reached now as you can see. So basically NATO was like "We really need 2% plz if we have 2% everything will be fine" and then as soon as all countries reach 2% they go "We really need 5% plz if we have 5% everything will be fine"

What we need isnt really that much more money, its a better strategy for how we use that money. Nationalization of industry contractors and fixed price points for bulk produced items.
At the moment the military complex is driven by the "We can ask for as much as we want because they keep giving us money" strategy. That needs to change and many other things with it like documentation and repairability of equipment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, well Russia and the MAGAzi's have forced all to shoot past 2%. Restructuring takes time and money.

The figures I saw were recent and projected commitments for the next couple of years.

[–] grte 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's not especially challenging if we simply refuse. 2% is fine.

Of course the idea is that 5% of our budget goes to American weapons. Just another shakedown attempt from the wannabe gangster president.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 15 hours ago

"refuse"?

That's hypocrisy, and we're not hypocrites yet, are we?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

The crazy thing is, it’s not 5% of the budget it’s 5% of GDP. Usually a government budget is somewhere around 20% of GDP. So spending 5% of GDP on NATO would mean about 25% of all government spending going on the military.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Aren't the targets just recommendations. Canada should decide how much it spend based on it own needs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

1% is a little much. 2% is clearly excessive. 5% is ... I don't even know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

If people are even taking it seriously I guess it means we won't have long to wait for world war 3.

[–] humanspiral -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least we will talk tough for a few months before increasing our subjugation level to USA to over 9000.

The great prosperity of war and fascism to the rescue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's the US pulling back from NATO that's spurred this increase.

[–] humanspiral 1 points 20 hours ago

No. It's appeasing trump, and his number.