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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Not wanting to feed children doesn’t seem very pro-life.

[–] [email protected] 208 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lunch debt? The fuck outta here with that dystopian nightmare shit

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

It's the first stop on the way to slave labor.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Christ empowered his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and tend to the sick. For some reason American Christians have decided that these explicit dictates should he ignored, much like the reminder that it is not their role to judge, so that they can instead focus on bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (35 children)

That's pretty much the entire history of Christianity.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's really not.

The corrupt nature of the Church as an institution exists to take advantage of the naive humanitarianism of its fellowship.

People, by and large, do want to help their neighbors and provide for the young and the elderly. Modern prosperity gospel Christianity and historical Catholicism/Protestantism hasn't change human nature. People in the church still pursue benevolent goals. It only pollutes human perception and education, by misallocating resources intended to improve society.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Expecting Christianity to base their actions on Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to base their actions on the Quik Bunny.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

State doesn't pay for kid's lunch. If parent can't afford kid's lunch, state takes child and places them in a foster home. State pays foster home many many times the cost of lunch to take kid.

Tell me what the goal of this system is so I can call someone else a conspiracy theorist for a change.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

May I introduce the Victorian concept of Children in Workhouses.

That's where you're heading.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is EXACTLY what they want. They sell the cute ones (check the protective services website, they have them listed for placement like a weird dating service or pet adoption site). They will prison to pipeline the rest while working them in "skill camps".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

CPS is a dystopian hell. I advocated for a child for a while, they would fuck up absolutely basic things, would not find out about things like hospitalization or legal trouble for weeks. When I brought up several months of basically no mental health care, they insinuated that I might be abusing the child.

They won’t take action on actual abuse. It’s Kafkaesque.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

I'm betting it's a 'hungry kids yearn for the mines earlier' sort of thing

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Original goal was probably to send kids to Epstein. Idk what current situation is, probably another hidden island that politicans visit.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Kids go to public school during lunchtime. Public school feeds the children lunch (something with real nutritional value that we would all want our kids eating). Kids do not pay for this. That's it. There should be no further discussion here. If you disagree with this I want to put my thumb into your eye socket in the worst way. It's so fucked up this is even a topic of discussion.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They're the future of our country and society, and legally required to be there, but we won't feed them.

'cause 'merica you fucking commie.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago

"You might be giving your kids a terrible childhood, so we're going to ensure they have a terrible life starting in our first-class foster care system"

[–] rekabis 67 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Punishing the poor for the crime of poverty.

How typically conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

Kids having lunch debt is the most American thing I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Do the schools actually have the authority to do that or is it like all those other empty threats I use to get? It's insane, but not surprising that the schools would threaten that. The sort of family who has to skip on paying lunch debts also doesn't have means to talk to a lawyer.

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Luzerne County's manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.

Yup, empty threats made to impoverish families.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

" for neglecting your child's right to food"

So you (the district) agree that right exists? Either you're not providing food and thus you're doing the neglecting and also they don't owe you anything, or you are required to provide food regardless of payment because you're in loco parentis during the school hours. And the $450 could very likely have been used to provide food and other necessities for those kids before and after school.

If you want to charge them with neglect, you have to prove they neglected their child, not just your budget.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

Starve your kid or lose them. That's quite a choice for a poor parent to make.

My late father grew up in an orphanage because my grandfather was too poor to care for 5 kids and a sick wife. My grandparents were able to take the kids home on Sundays though, so it wasn't a situation where they yielded full custody. I'm not saying an orphanage was ideal, but it's a shame that these days there is not the same kind of middle ground where kids can be cared for but still stay connected to their family. I guess that is too much of a social safety net for conservatives to tolerate.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Who made this warning?

I need a name

Because that has nothing to do with debt, putting kids in foster care wound only cost the state even more money

That is only about unbridled power and control

Absolutely delusional

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed. Name and shame. Whatever fucker came up with this deserves to be ostracised.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/kids-could-end-foster-care-over-lunch-debt-school-district-warns-parents-2019-jul/530-1952542e-0f2c-4b3a-b6f0-a32de5dbce58

The Wyoming Valley West School District.

If you want the name of the person standing behind the letter,

Wyoming Valley West's lawyer, Charles Coslett, said he did not consider the letters to be threatening.

"Hopefully, that gets their attention and it certainly did, didn't it? I mean, if you think about it, you're here this morning because some parents cried foul because he or she doesn't want to pay a debt attributed to feeding their kids. How shameful," Coslett told WYOU-TV.

I'm having a hard time confirming it, but it looks like an Irvin DeRemer was the super while this occurred, but was replaced in the 2025 election.

It's also an empty threat,

Luzerne County's manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So it's too expensive to provide school lunch, but not too expensive to completely take over the care of the children entirely. More and more, I understand what people mean when they say the cruelty is the point. This makes zero goddamned sense.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How the fuck is that supposed to fix anything? It's easily cheaper for the state to pay for their lunch.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Homeless people turn into cheap prison labor super easy. And foster kids become homeless so fast.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yet another reason why I hate every goddamn billionaire with the fire if a thousand suns.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

My school held my diploma for 6 months because of $20 worth of lunch debt that turned out to be a computer error.

That was 12 years ago.

Schools using food as a weapon against students is nothing new.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

But why oh why aren't people having kids?!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just a reminder that the same people who are against free school lunches for children are the ones who stand in front of abortion clinics screaming about how abortion is murder.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that image represents the food US kids get in school. It's too healthy and good looking (not saying it looks good, just better than it actually would be).

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Eh, not just America sadly. Half the world seems brainwashed into thinking that feeding children is controversial. The BBC did an article the other day about 500,000 extra kids getting them, and it got 9000 comments, split equally between "fair enough" and "but what about my tax money? 😢"

They should give the Libertarian nutcases a large enclave, and all the people who moan about their taxes being spent on other people should be forced to go and live there.

Oh, there's a pothole on your road? Hope one of the residents can afford to have it fixed. You were burgled? Can you afford to pay the police company to look into it? No streetlights, sorry. That's a waste. You carry a torch and light your own way. Pensions? Didn't you save enough?

Stop worrying about the tax bills of billionaires, for fucks sake. They can get by with less.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"The Wyoming Valley West School District Board of Directors sincerely apologises for the tone of the letter that was sent regarding lunch debt. It wasn't the intention of the district to harm or inconvenience any of the families of our school district," the school said in an "apology letter" on its website.

The fuck it wasn't

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49117936

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

The fact that they refused to accept the donations before the public backlash says everything. I guess people don't like it when you mess with their orphan-crushing machine?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The state wants to own your kids, that way you’re out of the way and they have slaves for life

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