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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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I feel like throwing a fit about the political alignment of a platform fundamentally built on democratic principles is always a self-own. "It's not fair that people don't upvote my unpopular opinions!"
Honestly there is a reason Lemmy doesn't have great mod tools
Where are they finding this love for Israel? Like, I haven't seen anything but hate for Israel, zionism, and the Palestinian genocide. The bots that try to counter this narrative get nowhere, or get removed... I don't even seen the conservative c/ praising Israel.
Thought the same. Usually its people calling for the destruction of Israel and wanting to commit ethnic cleansing in Israel, but I couldn't remember seeing someone massively support Israel.
There are sadly leftists who have embraced censorship as a virtue.
But I am one socialist who never will.
None of this reflects my experience here. Are they visiting lemmy?
yeah where the fuck is any mention of gaza being terrorists? I've seen nothing but overwhelming support for Palestine and complete disdain for Israel here.
Exactly, at this point support for Israel is uncommon as I would expect from a site that is not filled with bots.
Lemmy world is defederated from hexbear, so this user has gone out of their way to use an alt to view posts from there. That's their problem.
The whole Israel tangent is bullshit anyway, I always see posts and comments critical of Israel for genocide across pretty much every instance.
The liberal strawman they have constructed defends Israel. And remember, much like the right, "liberal" is the most scathing insult they have. They genuinely can't fathom anyone being leftist and not a tankie.
They genuinely believe liberal is an insult rather than an ideology that they disagree with which is kind of weird.
this user has gone out of their way to use an alt to view posts from there
I mean, they mostly just made things up.
So bizarre that they start off with whining about Trump and Musk being criticised. One should have thought that that would be something a true communist could agree with.
They love both Trump and Musk
"Any rebuttal is shut down by these drones." Proceeds to complain that their whataboutism isn't respected as a valid "rebuttal".
I liked that bit, anytime I use whataboutism, I get called out for whataboutism
Absolutely unhinged and measurably false. Sure the second highest upvoted post over the last 12 hours is about genocide in Gaza.
I guess my Tianenmen onion ruffled some jimmies lol.
I really find it hard to understand how people get into this twisted mindset.
Edit: just reading the thread. Yikes.
| > anniversary of tiananmen square massacre
| > everyone's posting about tiananmen square!
I believe you're referring to the impromptu, unannounced, Tiananmen Square Tank Parade...
/s
I think feathers are ruffled but jimmies are rustled?
I think you might be right!
"Lemmy is more right wing than Reddit" — someone that hasn't browsed a country subreddit in years.
and commenting on an account in a instance, that justs the same side of the coin as right wingers. yes i know they "are ultra left or whatever that means" but they use alot of the same talking points as right wingers.
That's because they're Stalinists, and Stalinism is fascism cosplaying as communism.
"whataboutism is effective propaganda". No, it's a reminder to address the actual argument, not talk about America lynching negroes.
“whataboutism is effective propaganda”
I mean, it kinda makes sense for a tankie to be pushing Russian distraction techniques?
Oh, they're mad as hell their echo chamber has lost its echo.
Also, our parliament has rules for a reason, and deliberately disrupting proceedings is a big deal for a very good reason. You break the rules, you get suspended.
Eh there's a difference giving the usual ritual slap on the wrist for a ritual stunt, as is done when parliamentarians hold up signs, come in with t-shirts with political slogans, or whatever, and suspending parliamentarians for unprecedented amounts of time on top of that timed such that they will miss the budget vote.
As such, broken clocks being right twice a day the tankie got it right in this instance, OTOH, if you look at the actual thread the comments they mention got their deserved pushback and (depending on level of ignorance of the poster) downvotes.
Apparently previous NZ precedent includes no suspension for driving a truck into parliament? Some Kiwi send me a link I want to see that.
yes, because they got defederated and cant"troll" on general lemmy instances, much like how conservatives in thier isolated echo chambers whine about the same thing.
~my keyboard aint crusty, just a little dusty
but it got the rainbow-frill~
Don't make me bring out my inner CIA
looks who in denial, when they called tianamen square AI slop. its odd to me they are anti-israeli, yet support governments that would be supporting genocide.
The pictures literally date back to then. That's so much denial.
the fuck did I just walk into
A bar. Why the long face..?
this is our lemmy now lol
I can imagine how the devs must be seething at the fact that the app they made, and let's be honest here, for the sole purpose of spreading propaganda, is slipping away from them.
That was one of their biggest reasons for bringing in Hexbear
When u build a free decentralised platform u get real freedom. Lemmy has always been the true embodiment of the marketplace of ideas. They are only now realising it.
That's a stretch. There will always be overzealous mods who ban you for things you say on other instances. Personally I think they're doing me a favor.
Freedom includes running away from people that day things you don't like. Then blocking or banning you from an instance you don't care about is them running away