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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

There are easier ways to get that data without having to trick people into downloading an app. Trump has palantir and Israel in his pocket. He already knows where they all are. The app just lets us all know where they are.

Trump doesn’t like playing a fair game because he can’t win those.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, but I think it's also because Republicans are downloading it and using it to spread fake ice raid claims, to confuse. So, I don't think the numbers are necessarily because people hate ice or whatever.

Guess we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 hours ago

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

~~Did anyone else notice that you couldn't use this on an Android device because it it may put the people who use it at risk?~~

~~For shame Android~~

Developer may not actually understand how phones work

https://lemmy.ml/comment/19647328

[–] floofloof 280 points 1 day ago (7 children)

She said that there's been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just "trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from... communities."

Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

Exactly. Basically "wahhhh this is making it harder for the kidnappers to kidnap people!! stop using the app they're just trying to do their jobs pls feel sorry for them 😭 "

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so blatant as if theyre using an instruction manual or something 🤔

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

Stephen Miller is exactly a Nazi

[–] KingPorkChop 11 points 10 hours ago

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

He's a fucking JEWISH Nazi - which is the worst kind of self loathing Nazi.

He'd be the first in the showers when the real Nazis come to town.

He's a pathetic loser.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I loathe and despise using percentages like this.

500% sounds super scary, but is meaningless without providing the baseline. If there was only one instance before and now there’s 5 it isn’t a significant increase but 500% sure sounds scary.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 19 hours ago

Thanks for the heads up.

Saw it wasn't on F-Droid and was going to ask for source page (to get through Obtanium), but looks like they're allergic to android and derivates. Appreciate you pointing to references.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

...iOS forces uses Apple services including getting apps through Apple...

Can't speak to the rest of the claims, but Android practically does too. If one has to sideload an app, you've lost 99% of users, if not more.

It makes me suspect they're not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.

That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.

On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You got that "tracked to their identity" opposite around. The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets "found" the data about the user/owner is an open book.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

This is not one of the claims made by the ICEBlock developers; their claims are only to do with notifications.

If you want to claim that a locked Android device is substantially easier for law enforcement to break in to than a locked iPhone, please cite up-to-date (from 2025) sources.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Glad others have pointed this out. Their "reasons" for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think he thinks HE had to store the information, and if he isn't the one storing it, it's anonymous.

Except, on Android, you can also do it where only google stores the information and he doesn't have to store any. And there are no user name or passwords or accounts involved to listen to specific channels like he claims.

You can collect this information, and you'd be able to write a more custom push service, but it isn't needed at all, but Google and Apple will always know who is getting the messages.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, called it.

Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it's closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You don't even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And how would they know that? That would mean push notifications would go via an Apple Server. Wich a) makes no sense b) can be masquerade so that the server does not know who talks to whom c) the meta information and the notification can be deleted timely

On the other hand, I guess most Android "low level" peer to peer apps go via FireBase?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

All push notifications go through APNS on apple. That's Apple Push Notifications Service.

APNS requires the device to authenticate with it and can uniquely identify the device by an id. Its how it sends messages to devices.

Firebase cloud messaging acts the same way for true push notifications.

You don't need to audit a device using APNS or FCM on Android to know that it is not anonymous.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"He's giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are," Bondi said. "...we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that's not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country."'

Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it's not constitutionally protected to say to someone "hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?" Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn't matter and laws are made up now, and they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They're just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It is definitely not constitutional protected free speech. Because constitution has nothing to say in this matter. On the other hand there is no law restricting such speech either. Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution, would be tricky however.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution...

The part that says...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assem- ble, and to petition the Government for a re- dress of grievances.

Make a law against the part that says not to make a law against it?

I mean, it's idiotic and on message for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago (10 children)

We need a federated equivalent. Anything centralized can be stopped.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Federation is an overly complicated solution it's not required. It also wouldn't actually help, they can still take it off the app store there'd be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.

The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There's no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that's a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that's probably unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius ... how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

If the internet is down then I don't have access to the app store. Also if the internet's down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Honestly yeah, if we can just torrent the database and have it stored outside the U.S then it's good

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Good. I hope they're terrified. The same as their victims

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