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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    People copy and pasting from the wiki or gpt "pathetic"

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Now I kind of want to see just how broken my install gets if I just have ChatGPT guide me through the whole installation.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

    It gets real messy, lol. I tried to have GPT guide me through figuring out a Node and nvm error in my Arch WSL and it made nightmare spaghetti out of my npm prefix.

    It eventually got stuck in a loop of trying to make me do the same two things over and over again and expected different results each time.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    People copying gpt commands into terminal is bound to be fked by the troll commands, right? Please.

    [–] [email protected] 80 points 4 days ago

    And now you're lost

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Installing Arch manually is not hard, and there are plenty of step-by-step guides.

    Figuring out what you need next and then managing this mess is more complicated.

    Source: I installed Arch manually btw

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    Years ago I installed it manually, too. For learning, yes. But regularly, no. The archinstall package is easy but a newbie would struggle there, too. It's just a faster way for skilled Linux Users.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Noted use Archinstall for sanity

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    I've installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol)

    My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It's basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I did it once, wrote down all the commands I used in order and then made my own install script. It was a great learning experience

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    i did that once... watched a video of some guy installing it, wrote down every single command, did it myself, it worked! then the clock system broke and i tried to fix it, couldn't do it because dumb, and reinstalled it. exact same commands as before, but it didn't work, no clue why

    then i did the same with some other youtube video, until i just decided to use an arch based distro with an installer

    now i just see people talking about archinstall and i'm like... i could've done it with one command? why did nobody tell me?!?!? or did i just ignore everyone who told me? am i stupid?!?!?

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don't think it'll catch one.

    I'm super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

    I got to where it expected me to partition the drive manually and noped out. I was doing that in the 90's when I compiled my own kernel. Ain't nobody got time for that today.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

    I've been using arch since archinstall came out. I never installed it reading the wiki.

    I sleep like a baby and everything works.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

    I've installed arch several times from scratch. Now if I need to I use archinstall. No shame

    [–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    If this was accurate, the ropes would have snapped and Homer would go hurddling to the base of the mountain.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    That's what pacman -Syyu is for. The occasional life support failure and forced bug hunting is part of the experience.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    command 'pacman' not found
    aggressively re-pacstraps

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I installed Arch exactly once by hand. Since then I just copy the install with dd from one medium to the next.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I once installed Gentoo from scratch.

    I then didn't use Linux for about 15 years, so take from that what you will.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

    We all carry trauma in our lives

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

    When you've already reached the peak, why keep climbing?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

    I once installed Gentoo on a netbook. emerge world took 3 days..

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    Installing arch without archinstall is way too much fucking work. I'd much rather spend time fixing the 10% greater likelihood of encountering issues post install than doing all that fucking bullshit manually. The command line is better for a lot of things but configuring partitions and mount points is not one of them. I demand a fuckin gui for that stuff.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

    I’ve done it both by the book and arch install. Arch install is just nice.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

    This is why arches based distos are taking off. They help with picking packages etc to save time.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Oh, you use pacstrap and arch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had was cp and install and we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn't know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

    Imagine installing Arch without having to bindmount dev, proc and sys smh my head

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

    I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install

    You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.

    I've done it, I've gotten the satisfaction from it, but it's not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

    What is this magic? You are telling me that a single command would have spared me an entire day of suffering?

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    "We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people."

    People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.

    "C'mon do you even linux?"

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    hardmode: I did a fresh install on a HDD that is on verge of being dead. Every-time this thing boots it's a miracle. Somehow dd blanking the disk, plenty of smartctl offline disk surface scans and finally putting btrfs with data in DUP profile resurrected the HDD. I have run btrfs scrub daily or else the os install may bitrot and well.. expire. :D

    Edit: Todays catch, I was too late and now I have fix 3 files:

    Error summary:    read=112
      Corrected:      109
      Uncorrectable:  3
      Unverified:     0
    
    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Gentoo stage 3 here.

    They discouraged earlier stages in the wiki :(

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I'm sorry, sir, but the tests indicate you have Stage 3 Gentoo.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    and from what we've gathered about your case, it's terminal

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

    Don't mean to bash your distro choice OP, but they say the best jokes contain a kernel of truth.

    [–] howrar 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Oof. What's the prognosis?

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    Wht does it even matter if you don't install Arch manually? Is the whole point of the arch installing? I don't think so, it's using. If you don't find anything joyful in manually installing arch it's perfectly fine to manually install only once to make sure you know how it works. And just use archinstall in every following installation that's not shamefu

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Honestly, I had wayyyy more issues when using archinstall than just installing it normally by the wiki. I might just be stupid though :P

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Archinstall made my root partition 25 GiBs the first time I ever messed around on arch. That was fun when it filled up.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

    Went with EndeavourOS instead so at least I have more than an ice cubes chance in hell of not borking my install

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