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[–] monotremata 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"If only I'd programmed the robot to be more careful what I wished for. Robot, experience this tragic irony for me!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

This is such a weird take.

Oh poor baby, you need a wittle spell check to make sure you don't mess up the words in your important email?

Oh little loser, you gotta have an automatic transmission to make the car go vroom vroom?

Oh Mr. has-a-life, you have to pull out Shazam instead of knowing 8 million songs by heart?

All of us use technology to make our lives easier, to supplement skills we don't want to sink perfectionist-level time into, to enjoy "good enough" results in one area or another.

This kind of holier-than-thou hyperbolic snobbery does nothing to generate actual thoughtful reflection of where to draw the line with technology dependence and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques of generative AI's ethics and other negative effects. I wish this sub didn't allow low-effort meme posts because it's such a brain rot circle-jerk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The loss of skill requirements within trades and crafts is likely a major factor in the cascades of ineptitude we experience in our society. The barriers to entry also directly benefitted the quality of those spaces, and naturally flagged the incompetent (if you are incompetent and lack spell check, your mis-spellings served as a demonstration that you are not a skilled writer. Same for driving, musical recognition, engineering as well).

We've seen a clear decline in the general quality of all products, and I can't help but feel that the automation of skill is directly connected to that decline. This tweet seems to mirror that sentiment in its mockery. You don't have to think anymore about pretty much any of the process, you just get an output you can ship immediately. So it goes without saying that you can be without any skill and still have a footprint within spaces you have no merit to be in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You said something here that is pertinent, but also revealing. We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it? The automatic transmission cited above allowed anyone with a pulse the ability to get behind the wheel of a car rather than putting in any effort to acquire the skill to operate a motor vehicle. Great for the people who built our car-ciety, we have all suffered for it, including inaccessible essential services w/o one and getting stuck in traffic caused in the most part by people who should never be behind a wheel of a car. Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art? Cause we've got that now. Great...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think automatic transmissions are in any way responsible for car centric urban planning, Europe has plenty of it and the transition to automatics is very slow and quite recent.

I agree far too many people are allowed to drive when they shouldn't but people dying on the road is more socially acceptable than stringent standards for being allowed to operate lethal machines at insanely high speeds (in terms of kinetic energy at least).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 24 minutes ago

Yes, the automatic transmission is not solely responsible, but it was a means to an end. How can we get more people in cars? Make it easier to drive! Brilliant. Except now we have this... It's irrational but it's my brain and I can do what I want with it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it?

🙄 Yes. If you disagree with something this obvious, please write me a lengthy letter explaining why and send it by horse & buggy mail carrier. I promise, I'll read and respond just as soon as I'm able.

Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art?

🤮🤮🤮 Maybe we should require an intelligence test before allowing people to post their opinions on the internet too? Or have children?

If you actually think that disallowing some people to create art because they aren't "good enough," then you aren't really defending art or artists at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The point is we value people who are at the top of their specific game for a reason. When the barriers to access are removed, that's great, but it dilutes the end game product over all. Sorry not sorry. Easier lives makes dumber people I guess? Boy that's so cool! I get it, busy people can use AI to make their days less busy, but people who aren't too busy are using it and getting dumber for it. Prove me wrong. Yes technology has a myriad of benefits, but also a myriad of pitfalls too. Weird, eh? I'm not disallowing people from making art, but no one should or would buy it in a real world environment. I would ask, what value does it add to the world? Art is an expression of the artist interpreting the world. AI art is rubbish and it gives you exactly what you ask for. Cool? Maybe, but not art.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Again, this whole idea that you need to make an argument about the tradeoffs of technology in general in order to make an argument against AI is weak and needless. Do you have a smart phone you use the calculator on sometimes, or do you write out all your long-form division? Is everyone who owns a microwave, uses tax preparation software, or switches to an electric toothbrush just a lazy dumb-dumb in your mind?

When the barriers to access are removed, that’s great

but it dilutes the end game product over all.

AI art is rubbish and it gives you exactly what you ask for.

Cool? Maybe,

This is just talking out of both sides of your mouth trying to sound fair and balanced instead of actually making a good argument. "AI art is rubbish" -- yes!!! We don't need vacuous, hypocritical hot takes on using technology to say that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 28 minutes ago

That's not the only thing I'm talking about, but it seemed relevant to the post? Way to fixate on one thing I am saying instead of just agreeing with me? I thought an argument was supposed to be thought out? I'm not just talking about AI though. I really hate the automatic transmission if you really want to know. Like, it doesn't rule my life or anything, I just think it has allowed stupid people to get in my way. AI art is slop and I'm not afraid of being replaced. Just so we are clear!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't do that at all. People creating great art isn't going away. Stop being a dumb gatekeeper too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

Who is gatekeeping?! Just cause I don't feel the same as you doesn't mean you can't do a thing? Technology is great, but it can also be stupid, and dangerous, and misused and by golly, even detrimental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

bruh, it's literally a mockery. they are mocking the ineptitude of people who use AI.

way to overanalyze a tweet.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Your Brain on ChatGPT

…LLM users displayed the weakest connectivity. Cognitive activity scaled down in relation to external tool use... LLM users also struggled to accurately quote their own work. While LLMs offer immediate convenience, our findings highlight potential cognitive costs. Over four months, LLM users consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.

Outsourcing thinking from your brain to an AI literally makes you dumber, less confident in the output, and teaches you nothing.

Call me a Luddite or a hater, but if you’re one of the people who uses AI as a shortcut to actual thought or learning, I will judge you and disregard your output and opinions. Form your own basis of understanding and knowledge instead of a teaspoon deep summary that is frequently incorrect.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Same with using a calculator, no? Or not memorising log tables.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

There’s a key difference between using a tool to crunch a known mathematical equation (because you cannot just say “find X” to the calculator) and having to punch in the right inputs - ergo requiring understanding - and simply asking the teacher for the answer.

Treat AI like the hermit oracle/shaman/divinator of yesteryear, and you’ll get the same results - idiots who don’t know how to think for themselves, and blindly accept what they are told.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

They say that, when making an Anki deck, using it is only half the battle because a lot of the learning comes from the act of making it yourself. That advice is older than these LLMs and it really showcases a big reason why they suck. Personally, I haven’t even used autocorrect since 2009.

Being a luddite I feel requires having a highly abstinence-only approach. Knowing what is worth off-loading and what is worth doing yourself is just being smart. I’m really glad that I don’t need to know every detail of modern life but I still take a lot of pride in knowing how quite a lot of it works.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They will monetize those chatbots.

And I want to see how many will pull out their wallet when it happens.

And I worry it will be almost every hardcore user, for the fear of being left out and performing worse than anyone else.

The trap is set, it has sprung, and now we wait will the owner comes for the feast.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They will monetize those chatbots.

They already did? They have premium plans, pro plans, free plans, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I mean they will disable the free version.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Can it maybe just give her an orgasm for me? I'm way to lazy to do it myself.

/it's sarcasm, you dumb fuck

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

me doublefisting magic wands

[–] [email protected] 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The goddamn meta commercial where the dad is asking, "meta, how do I get my toddler to eat breakfast" makes me wants to implode every fucking time. Like you can't feed your kid?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

I won't pretend I didn't Google things, but it was mainly getting them to sleep. When you aren't sleeping, desperation is a very real thing.

Eating though, I like to use "This is the next thing you eat" on my kids.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

where the fuck are meta commercials popping up

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

I delivered pizza during COVID and most people I worked with couldn't follow simple directions to an address or read a road map. If a destination didn't show up on their cellphone's navigation then they were immediately and hopelessly lost.

If you don't use and exercise your brain then it atrophies and dies. AI is going turn a lot of people into conscious vegetables.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have this problem with a bunch of new hires. I'll show them another way to do something and they'll ask, oh where was that written down? I said Just think about what I just did and how it makes sense, its not written down this is a neat trick i'm showing you. I swear there is no creativity or critical thinking anymore, just a bunch of automatons that follow protocol to the letter and the second there is a situation outside those very narrow parameters they just implode. Someone had to figure all of this out at one point and make the protocol in the first place, sometimes there is no step by step guide and you need to exercise judgement and make some decisions on your own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Humans are unlearning how to adapt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We need to teach people curiosity. I use my GPS all the time because of construction and stuff but I also look at the route before I leave so that I know where I’m headed on my own, too. Meanwhile I know people who’ve lived in a city for decades and still can’t get around it without help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We need to teach people curiosity.

This is called being a lifelong learner. Learning something new every week, or even daily, no matter how small, will always improve your life. It keeps your mind active and it adds to your problem solving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Absolutely.

Thinking about it, our school systems do prioritize memorizing just enough information to pass a test and then people just kinda forget it all because they didn’t really get a chance to internalize it. The best teacher I ever had earned that title from me because he took the main curriculum and threw it out, teaching us instead how to be comfortable and confident with the CAD program. When the other class, taught by the moron who wrote the curriculum, even, joined us the semester after they basically had to be retaught because they retained nothing over the Christmas break and the rest of us kinda just sat there until they figured it out.

It ends up discouraging “frivilous” learning, demanding we learn not only specific stuff but so much of it that there’s no way we can actually absorb it. It’s the difference between letting a sponge soak in a bucket and just dipping it in the ocean.

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