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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Nah, I'm good thanks

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?

But shareholder value is more important.

Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"

Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.

For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn't have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.

It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren't good at teaching or helping others. It's not a face to face issue. It's soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Do many people get mentored in the office? I have worked for decades and have never been mentored.

Edit: I assume random, one off comments don't count as mentoring. "Don't put your feed up on the desk" isn't mentoring right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Between interns and junior engineers, I'd say I am doing about 0.5 to 1 day a week of 1 on 1 work with all of them. Sometimes it's direct problem solving and other times it's going over topics they are interested in. The last few weeks have been on development processes and workflows, time management and getting things done, presentations and soft skills. I even helped one work on interviewing.

If I can train them to be amazing at their next job chances are they stick around longer and do great things here.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Don't forget all those "networking" trips out of town.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.

I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"My only friends are people on my payroll."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

"People don't want to hang out with me unless I pay them"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.

And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 days ago

Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.

That being said, this CEO is stupid, loneliness is not cured by being forced to interact with people that I need to be paid to interact with.

I also realize that just because I find the office beneficial, does not mean I get to dictate how other people should feel about it.

[–] corsicanguppy 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.

Some people do.

The trick about remote work is not that it lets us all work from home, but that it gives us another location and we can pick our best environment.

I found a job that promises "work from anywhere in the country", and many people min-maxed their location for profit. They only have to match time-zone to ensure they're punched in during 'business hours' (and, for some, starting later in their day to synch with the home office is f'n awesome).

But they still maintain "hotel" spots, two of them permanent. People did find some days or many days in the office each week is their jam. Some come and go as per their current needs and best environment. One of my peers went camping, and did a server update over VPN over starlink over smores, and then put the laptop away for the weekend. He was proving he can camp while on-call.

Sometimes I like my view. Sometimes I need a featureless wall to cut down on distractions. I find what is best and I rock that shit. And that's what it's about: find your best space.

When the only space is Office Space, then there is no freedom to find that environment where you crush it today, and that needs to be seen as an impairment. Let us pick our time and place and - sun tzu - victory is assured.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.

Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:

  • walking with my laptop open im my hand with a headset on to find an empty meeting room
  • sharing desks with annoying co-workers from other departments
  • enjoying other peoples conversations about their lunch plans from the other side of the open plan office
  • fighting for the thermostat setting and opening/closing the windows
  • embracing the daily multi-hour commute in rush hours

It really builds character.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Your office windows can be opened ? Luxury!

After writing that I feel I may need to clarify that I mean actual physical windows in an office building, not some self opening Microsoft product.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."

[–] melsaskca 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.

Going into the office every day is a scam.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Where is this energy during lay off season? No issues witb potentially 90k hours of social bonding gone to provide better executive bonuses.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every single one of my jobs in the last 5 years or so has stated that remote work has undeniably increased productivity and output, as well as general morale.

Many of them have sold all their offices so they couldn't even RTO if they wanted to.

For some reason one of them still keeps the 7 floor office building and even a receptionist and security guard...despite about 5 people working from there on any given day. But hey, whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.

My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being promoted to the C-suite causes brain damage.

[–] Sturgist 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah, the brain damage is a prerequisite. It does get worse though.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

This person is a disgrace.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

LPT: when you're this incoherent it's time to reassess your meds.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Investing millions in main st businesses

Obviously a commercial real estate investor, weak gaslighting attempt though.

She knows those who schlepped into offices before Covid realize how much better remote is for everyone, so tries to target kids who are fresh out of school and didn’t necessarily experience that dichotomy.

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