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Setting aside the ethics and children for a bit, I am disturbed by the idea of leaving a car running on a battery for an hour or longer. That is a good way to run down the battery and needing a AAA towing. Alternatively, leaving the engine on would use up gas. Plus, just general wear and tear on the vehicle.
Cars are expensive enough as it is.
jesus christ, the mother was fucking 20, and she was allowed to take the children into the lobby but opted out of it.
she blatently knew and asked about her options and chose the one with the highest risk.
wait... the staff KNEW?
Fuck them too.
they knew she had children, but im not completely aware she asked the day of the appointment or not. its completely possible she asked when booking the appointment on a different day. its just at some point the establishment was asked.
edit: it mentions earlier in the day. so there was no guarantee that the staff KNEW the kids were out there during the appointment, but knew she had kids.
whether they knew she took them with her for the appointment is a different question thats yet to be answered
It does not surprise me that people who get lip filler share a venn diagram space with people who leave their kids in hot cars
Almost anyone can have children, but not everyone can be a parent.
One of my more controversial views is that having children should require a permit, like adoption currently requires, you'd need proof that you are able and willing to raise a child in the environment they deserve to be raised in.
Yes I realize what the downsides would be.
Personally, I think that's the wrong approach. We're very individualistic in the states and that leads to thinking that each child is the responsibility of their parent(s) and no one else, but if we had a more communal approach to raising children and acknowledged their wellbeing is a collective responsibility perhaps this could have been prevented. There's a lot of personal dysfunction in this story, but that's exactly the kind of thing that community can make up for.
We should have well funded and robust childcare services so that people who aren't responsible enough to take care of children have something to lean on. In a sane society one person dropping the ball shouldn't result in a child's death. Does having a communal place where children are well cared for without the need for payment really defy the imagination? In a nation where we can't even provide basic healthcare perhaps it defies expectation, but we will never achieve what we can't imagine.
Of course it was Bakersfield.
"The car was parked in a space facing west during the hottest part of the day."
Hernandez was getting a lip filler procedure at the Always Beautiful Med Spa Sunday, according to reports. Those same reports say she didn’t check on her children until two and a half hours later.
“In a normal person, it’s not gonna happen,” said Gricelda Anaya.
Anaya works next door and saw people scrambling into the building to try to save the boys.
“What we see on the camera is that they’re trying to put cold water right here on the reception, and it was something very sad that never had to happen.”
Those scrambling people are probably going to have some kind of PTSD now too.
Oh and Dad's in prison for some other unspecified reason.
How the fuck does this even happen? How are they left in the car and not with grandparents or family? How do you not realise they are going to be VERY UNCOMFORTABLE at best or just straight-up DEAD when you get back?
This woman should go to prison for life and get plenty of mental health checkups and assistance while she's in there. Just in case she's ever released for whatever reason. Maybe she'll come back functional.
For clarification/elaboration. The car was running when she left them. Her mentality was that they were going to sit in the AC the entire time, but unbeknownst to her, the car had an auto-shutoff feature that turns off the car after 60 minutes of idle in park. Not that it makes it much better, but it's not like she intended the children to be in the heat that long.
Leaving your baby children alone in a running car ... you parents out there ... clue me in, but isn't this the pinnacle of irresponsibility, even on a cool day? I thought "you don't leave kids alone in a running car" was a widely-known and accepted principle, probably since cars were invented. Fold into that the fact that the kids would be in a hazardous environment (protected only by the integrity of the A/C system) as well as in an unprotected environment (car break ins maybe, kidnapping, crashes (even in a parking lot), battery fires ...), why would anyone think it would be preferable to leave one's kids in such a situation, when
Earlier in the day, Hernandez had texted the nurse performing her treatment to ask whether she could bring her children, to which the nurse responded, “Sure if you don’t mind them waiting in the waiting room,” according to the police report.
No, no, much more convenient to leave them in SoCal sun in a parking lot in your car, for hours. And all this just to get your duck lips. FFS.
you parents out there ... clue me in, but isn't this the pinnacle of irresponsibility, even on a cool day?
I wouldn't leave my 1 year old alone for more than 5 minutes in the centre of a pillow fort in my house with the AC on (bad analogy, soft fluffy surfaces can be dangerous to small children if they can't get their faces up reliably to get air).
There have been countless times when it's a nice 18 degrees Celsius outside and I needed to run into the store to grab ONE thing. A total in and out time of maybe 3 minutes. I also live in a quiet and safe town. And yet each and every time, I took the effort to get my kid out of his car seat, carry him inside with me, get the stuff, and do the whole process of getting him into his seat, get him bucked in, get his toys set up again, etc.
I would throw myself off a cliff for being the worst parent imaginable if I left him in the car for those 3 minutes because I couldn't make the effort.
This mother from the news didn't deserve the child that died and neither of them deserved her as a mother, for all that term does any good here.
Me reading this article:
Huh, California?
Oh, Bakersfield. Say no more
She has pleaded not guilty to all charges and is being held in a hot car with no AC in lieu of $1,080,000 bail, according to the Kern County district attorney’s office.
FTFY
its 101 degrees outside the car, but inside it can reach as much as 130-140f.
Bakersfield is a conservative shit show