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A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner's association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

He thought HOA meant hand outs available. It’s blazing hot af, who would care for some cold water? Yeah, what a turd this guy is. Goddamn hoa needs to stroke out & get a new board.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

HOA seems to be such a stupid thing. Glad there's nothing even remotely that bad everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I found an update about the vote to remove the three board members.

Homeowners voted 190 to 20 in favour of removal, however the board cancelled the vote claiming there wasn't a 24 hour notice given to the community and subsequently that 210 votes might not qualify a quorum of more than a thousand homes.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago

Those kinds of shenanigans get HOAs nullified by court order.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, that will go well. Piss off people and make their vote not count. The people that know where you live and can see your front door...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To play devil's advocate for a moment, having a sufficient vote notification period is important.

Though if that were the board's true concern, they surely would have announced intention to notify the community alongside their statement cancelling the vote for this reason, which hasn't happened insofar as I can tell.

Voting details:According to recent census data, Goodyear has 2.7 people per household. It doesn't say for the city specifically, but Arizona appears to have a minor population of 21%. I saw in the statement this association represents "over 1,000" households. In my experience, that could mean anywhere from 1,001 - 1,099 homes. The city of Goodyear held a vote earlier this year to approve a water utility contract, which lists an expected voter turnout of 17%.

By this, I'm guessing less than 3,000 people live in this community, with about 2,400 eligible to vote on an association proposal, but likely around 400 people that would go to the effort of voting on such a tedious issue.

I think that if half of the community shows up with less than a day's notice to make themselves heard, that's probably representative enough for how the community feels about these board members.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate your comment.

I dislike administrative issues on votes being called out by the board after the vote takes place. When administrative issues are noted after the vote, it looks like the board is trying to subvert the membership.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Thank you. I did think about that also.

'Volunteers' did the counting, but surely they should have known or been informed that a quorum of votes equal to x% of the community are required for the vote to be valid. If the count doesn't meet or exceed that value, discard the ballots.

Or even why was the vote permitted to take place in less than the required notification period? I presume the answer to these questions is either incompetence or bravado on the part of the board members taking their position for granted.

I find it unlikely that if the vote had went the other way, the board would have had the integrity to raise the same objections.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Luckily both of those are easy to remediate. The bylaws state what is a quorum and you can give more notice. This won’t stop things.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Donald stated you’ll never have to vote again… retards cheered. This is how it will start.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you’re in a state with ballot measures, then you could campaign for rules against single family home HOAs.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (20 children)

How anyone that lives in a country that has HOAs can unironically call it "land of the free" is beyond me

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some HOAs can be quite nice as they're just there to add some basic community rules. However, many are hijacked by a handful of narcissistic individuals who let this insignificant amount of power go to their heads and they turn into a bunch Mussolinis

[–] HugeNerd 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Having served on the board of my building, you see what slobs and mindless people you share the planet with. Letting their pets piss in the hallway. It gets cleaned by staff, right? What's the problem? Compost stinks, leave the bin in the hallway! Doesn't matter as long as I don't smell it, right?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

That's the thing, the sheer amount of imbeciles who occupy these units make you question how society got to this point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Handing out bottles of water!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"ProPTeRy VaLUes!"

No one sees any value in just living in their homes. They have to be statements on your personal wealth, and though that, statements on your character as a human being. Living under the thumb of narcissists is a small price to pay so your neighbor doesn't look poor.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Im curious, what could an HOA do if he just refused to pay?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

Depending on the covenants, they could most likely put a lien on his home, and even take his home from him (eventually)

Fuck HOAs

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

That's the fucked up thing about HOAs. Their rules are legally enforceable, as long as the rules themselves are legal to impose. Just like any other contract. It's a fucked up system.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

No good deed goes unpunished.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The good news is he read the HOA agreement, initiated a special meeting through signatures, and now the neighborhood is holding a special election to remove the dickhead board members.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And the update is… fuck off, 210 votes is not counted for. Someone updated the comments

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I don't know these idiot board members think is going to happen after blocking the vote. It's going to go MORE viral now and they'll get voted out even harder.

Article talked about that some here: https://nypost.com/2025/07/12/us-news/arizona-homeowner-david-martin-fined-100-repeatedly-for-giving-out-free-water-in-heat-amid-clash-with-hoa/

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